>Thanks everyone for the input. Though it's unfortunate that there >seems to be no DIY solution for lubrication, I think It'll give me >something to tinker with over the next couple of months.
Good luck Chris - let us know how you get on. All best Keith >Thanks >Chris > >> Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 09:11:29 -0700 >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org >> Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Bio Engine Oil >> >> Bio based, no... but I have seen, in the last few months, introduction of a >> whole line of recycled engine oils in the local auto parts stores here. >> I'm not really sure what the recycled content is percentage wise, but >> apparently it's using old engine oil, filtering all the bad stuff out, and >> adding back in the additives that have been used up. It's supposed to meet >> the same standards as new petro-based engine oil. >> >> Z >> >> On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 7:29 AM, Jan Warnqvist < >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> > Hello Keith et al. >> > I am not surprised on the market non-introduction of castor oil >>lubricants. >> > Castor oil, although a classic, is not ideal as a raw material for >> > lubricant >> > formulations. The castor oil has two hydroxyl groups on the fatty acid >> > (ricinic acid) chain which will want to polymerize and releasing >>water into >> > the system, giving the lubricant an unnecessary short life. What attracts >> > the lubricant inventors is the high viscosity and the expected high >> > viscosity index of the oil which both looks promising enough. But I would >> > prefer a more stable material to start with and then adjusting the >> > viscosity >> > values chemically. >> > A good lubricant consist from a base oil and then added a number of >> > additives in order to adjust the properties of the lubricant. It is then >> > preferable to bring as favourable properties already in the base oil in >> > order to minimize the addition of additives. >> > >> > Best to you all >> > Jan W >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Keith Addison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > To: <biofuel@sustainablelists.org> >> > Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2012 2:13 PM >> > Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Bio Engine Oil >> > >> > >> > > Hi Chris and Dawie >> > > >> > > The answer seems to be No. Sorry to say. >> > > >> > > It was first discussed here in 2001. Lots of interesting stuff in the >> > > list archives: >> > > http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ >> > > >> > > Try "bio engine oil" or "biolubricant". >> > > >> > > (Don't forget, the whole thread is hotlinked at the end of each find.) >> > > >> > > If you do a web search, you'll find lots of talk, lots of products >> > > that are simply biodegradeable, "green" lubricants to replace the >> > > likes of WD-40 or 2-stroke oil, and a few commercial bio engine oils, >> > > with claims that they're made from renewable resources but they don't >> > > say what, or they're a marriage of renewables (pig fat) and >> > > nano-tech, or whatever, but nothing DIYable. >> > > >> > > I knew some people in Japan who were making bio engine oil from >> > > castor oil. They wouldn't tell me how they were doing it, but they >> > > gave me a bottle of it. Clear, light yellow, sort of oily smell. But >> > > after a while it started degrading, whisps of cloudiness started >> > > appearing. Not perfect, and they never brought a product to market. >> > > >> > > Still, castor oil is probably the best bet. It's strange stuff - give >> > > this a read: >> > > http://www.georgiacombat.com/CASTOR_OIL.htm >> > > >> > > IIRC Brazil's Petrobras had plans for producing castor oil-based >> > > engine oil, but I can't find any details. >> > > >> > > HTH, and good luck - best >> > > >> > > Keith >> > > >> > > >> > >>This is something I've also been wondering about. -D >> > >> >> > >>>________________________________ >> > >>> From: C Pinelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > >>>To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org >> > >>>Sent: Saturday, 21 January 2012, 1:56 >> > >>>Subject: [Biofuel] Bio Engine Oil > > > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>>Hi all. >> > >>>I'm still new to biofuels but have been making biodiesel and >> > >>>ethanol for my vehicles for a few months now and am thrilled with >> > >>>it. However, I can't stand filling up my gas tank with home made, >> > >>>environmentally friendly fuel, then changing the oil with expensive >> > >>>petroleum. So, I have been doing some research into making >> > >>>Bio-Engine Oil, it seems possible which makes me very enthusiastic. >> > >>> >> > >>>Does anybody know anything about making vegetable based motor oil? >> > >>>Or does anybody have any experience with using it? >> > >>> >> > >>>Thanks very much > > > >> >Chris _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
