Hello Bart, Thanks for the detailed reply. I guess you are right in that there is nothing really on the market to deliver "true SVG" renderings from a sequence of screen menus. I have a requirement to deliver screen captures (that can be scaled without losing quality). So, I guess in a sense, I could hand draw hundreds of screens by hand (vector format) or tell the client - "you wanted SVGs, well here are the SVGs" (SVG code encapsulating raster graphics). This is possible with programs such as Beatware Mobile Designer and others.
I really think that someone could make some serious money if they were to either engineer video cards for Vector Output or to somehow encode smart browsers with the capability to capture any window in that browser to "true SVG" output. If you go to the W3C site you will see that there is a lot of discussion with mobile phones and scalable vector graphics. For the sake of electronic training materials (i.e. how to instruct a user to use complex software via screen shot sequence) - SVGs make perfect sense in that you can scale from the mobile phone and PDA to a large 21 inch monitor without loss of quality. Yes, photo slides (in raster format) are nice, but I need to scale (in either direction) the screen capture in either direction and obtain crisp, clear, detailed results. I will explore the possibilities that you mentioned, but I do hope that as we go down the road and use open source SVGs more and more, that the video cards or software (i.e. Microsoft Windows and IE) will take a serious look at pixel conversion to vector format. Thanks for the detailed response. Regards, Jim --- In [email protected], Bart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 'Directly' depends on your meaning of the word. The Flash > screen capturer is actually mostly just that. In the sense > that you didn't have to print-screen yourself, save to files, > etc it is direct, but it's basically just smartish video capture. > > > If you want general video output as high quality vector graphics, > forget it. Graphics output (in the general, 'at the videocard' > sense) is inherently pixel based - you can't bypass a raster > phase because there is no other for the video card. > > Technically, it may be possible to implement something > like an rdesktop client, which actually works like a video > driver that gets 'draw this widget there,' 'draw that text > there' commands, for which you could probably implement > an SVG writing backend if you really wanted to. > I don't think it'd be simple, though, as you'll more or less > be implementing both part of the windows interface and > a way to get that sequential yourself. > > Failing that the best you can do is to find some vector > wizardry that makes a better than average guess at what > the vectors for something would look like. It's possible, > there're various raster-to-vector programs, commercial > and free. > > > Somewhat relatedly, there's the Flash recorder, > raster based, for which there is no SVG equivalent, > as far as I know. > > > However, it is usually pointless to convert raster to vector > after the fact as you will not get more detail, and when > there is photographic-style detail you get huge vector > images or decide to show less detail. > > I not see what would be so bad about just linking to > images. You seem to essentially want a clickable > slide show - entirely possible. But your wish of doing > it in pure SVG seems too hard for its purpose. > > --Bart > > > > On 7/29/05, Jim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello Holger, > > > > Thanks for the link to the application. > > > > I am trying to capture hundreds of software screens that have to be > > saved, rendered and/or exported to SVG format. > > > > I am looking for a way to get pixel to vector conversion or straight > > vector conversion from a video card. Or, perhaps there is a way to > > display a pixel screen in a special custom browser that could snap > > each row of pixels to vector format. > > > > If you know of any tools that can accomplish this, please let me > > know. I have seen tools that save screens to SVG and the result was > > a .png file that was wrapped in SVG code. > > > > I need a "TRUE" SVG right from the source, so that I can have > > computer menu screens that are scalable (in both directions) without > > pixelating and getting blurry. > > > > Any feedback on this issue is very much appreciated. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Jim > > > > > > --- In [email protected], Holger Will <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > Jim schrieb: > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > I am trying to figure out a way to take screen captures from any > > > > type of software - direct into SVG format. Currently, I am > > testing > > > > out Macromedia Captivate (formerly RoboDemo) which does a > > fantastic > > > > job of capturing hundreds of slides (computer menu screens). Is > > > > there some way to capture the SVG output from a video card or the > > > > display what it renders on the monitor? > > > > > > > > Or perhaps is there a way to capture and convert screens to SVG - > > > > such that the quality is like true vector art? > > > > > > > > I have hundreds of screens to create and they all have to be in > > SVG > > > > format, so any ideas are very much welcomed. > > > > > > > > I tried an application called Mobile Designer but it only took > > the > > > > Macromedia Captivate screen and wrapped SVG code around a .png > > file. > > > > > > > > I need 100 percent SVG format. 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