> Every time someone
> introduces an extra XML language, all that I have to learn is what is
> *specific* to that language, nothing else. With other formats, you
> also have to pick up the tools, the quirks, the modes of publishing,
> etc.. 
>
        Granted that learning a new grammar is easily than learning new
tools - but that's also a bit of an argument for saying that programmers
today are lazy...

        "In my day, we walked to school up hill - both ways!"


> Additionally, XML integrates smoothly with whatever
> infrastructure you have in place in your company or just on your
> computer.
> 
        Wouldn't that depend on the infrastructure?  I've got lots of
customers for whom XML is a 4 letter word...(and many others who eat it up).


> Contrast this with Flash or PDF. Have you ever tried to get
> information out of these formats? 
>
        Every day for the last 8+ years!   

        I don't have any problems - but then I've spent the time to learn
the formats and tools for working with them, just as I learned the tools for
XML.   Once I learned the formats and tools - they are no longer any
easier/harder.


> The specifications may be open, but it's still
> the case that once you put your data in one of those formats, you've
> pretty much locked it up for good. 
>
        Huh?

        Sounds like you have had some bitter experiences - sorry about that.
But that's your personal experience and NOT a reality of the technology...


> Likewise, producing PDF or SWF
> programmatically is infinitely harder than with XML formats.
> 
        Again, depends on the tools...


> I don't trust MS much about the openness of Metro, but given a choice
> between that and PDF I will produce Metro documents any day of the
> week and run away screaming from PDF.
> 
        Simply because it's XML?!?!

        So you'd pick a technology because it's "cool" or "happening" and
"easy" over something that is technically superior?



Leonard



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