This is due to the Eolas patents. Even if you are an ardent M$ hater, you
have to be on M$ side on this one, since after Eolas gets done with
Microsoft, they intend to go after everyone else. The patents don't look
like they are valid in the least since there was substantial prior art. But
the wheels of bureaucracy grind very slowly.

 

The whole patenting of software was a huge mistake, especially since we
never gave the patent office sufficient resources to investigate the
filings, so they have approved a huge number of rather bogus patents. The
recent RIM settlement for a patent that is likely to be invalidated over the
next few months is just one of many problems.

 

Geoffrey J. Swenson

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On Behalf Of Francis Hemsher
Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 8:25 PM
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Subject: [svg-developers] Re: IE7 Beta 2 has an SVG Embed Problem

 


> Francis Hemsher wrote:
> > IE7 Beta 2 Preview(3/20/2006) does not initially focus on the 
events 
> > contained within an SVG document included in an embed.
> > It provides its own statement, via an onMouseOver popup 
display: "click 
> > to activate and use this control".
> 
> That is true. It is not just SVG, but any browser extension which 
has 
> its OBJECT, EMBED, or APPLET tags contained within the hosting 
HTML 
> page. Much more info on user experience and development strategies 
here:
> http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/activecontent
> 
> 
>  > I've made MS aware of the above. If anyone else is looking at
>  > IE7, the EMBED and SVG, you should run it and let them know
>  > of your needs.
> 
> They already know, believe me, they already know.... ;-)
> 
> The new behavior also occurs in users of the regular IE6 who have 
found 
> the list of download options in Windows Update and chosen to 
install the 
> similar change for IE6. I expect that, in absence of further legal 
news, 
> that this browser change will be mainlined into a future IE6 
update. 
> Other browsers are also vulnerable to the same legal concerns, 
although 
> I have not heard of any patent news against other browsermakers... 
> Microsoft has the biggest pockets, and was first to be approached.
> 
> What to do? The easiest seems to be to use an external .JS file to 
> dynamically write your OBJECT, EMBED or APPLET tags into the page. 
> Examples are at the above Macromedia Active Content Center.
> 
> jd

Hi jd,
I think you left out the most germane part of my statement...

"This was not a problem in IE5.5, IE6, or your previous IE7 Beta 
issue"

You see, my site has developed a technology based on the above 
expectations. If MS does not follow through, then they will have 
another legal problem(me). I guess you understand that MS has a 
competing technology that may provide an unhealthy spin to how they 
address the above. I promise you, this in not going be an easy bug 
to swallow for MS if they the do not solve this situation.

Francis






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