I disagree 100% for the following reason.

1- Web User more and more become sophisticated. They want the info with
pleasure/ entertained  Both you and I agree they/consumers always demand
more and more. (according in one internal study of a F100 in Houston, Tx
that it has more surf activity (40%) more than any other competitor because
their web sites are designed by artist "not purely developer").

2- Up to now there is no browser base, dynamic graphical development
'platform'. Some may argue Flash but" Hum hum. . . they all just the
selection of 'predefined element".

3- There are two inter-changeable (propriety VML) and SVG. So no other
public domain, browser base, dynamic graphical development 'platform' beside
SVG.

4- The only discouraged fact is ADOBE put a dead end to its ASV. They may
think with that move "without Flash you can do it . Period" You nerve know
if there may be something is about to come out. Personally I think Flash or
even if ADOBE goes back to ASV are not able to make IE+ASV or IE+Flash more
better then other browser that support SVG negatively. By nature FLASH and
ASV are ChildWindows/process they can not put themselves commingling with
other graphical elements of the page as one among other. I challenge any one
using one instanceof either ASV or FLASH to create a picture that both 100 &
opaque and semi-transparent. Simply it not there.

Hope this help.

Phi.




On 4/18/06, Bill Thoen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Robin Berjon wrote:
>
> >I don't know if there are other fora for discussion, I know I tend to
> >go to the #svg IRC channel on irc.freenode.net since a lot of
> >interesting discussions and help-giving tends to take place IMHO.
> >
> One other thing... when I tried to re-up my subscription here on the SVG
> developers forum, I found Yahoo's nosy (required) questionaire really,
> really annoying. Their privacy policy is even worse (basically it says
> they can do whatever they like with the info they gather from
> subscribers.) Since I have cookies turned off, that was a hassle too. I
> tried several times to get re-subscribed, and each time I hadn't done
> something right, it forced me to re-enter ALL the info again. So I
> filled out a bunch of lies, got signed up, but they managed to
> cross-reference my old info using my e-mail address anyway (even though
> since I had forgotten my old password *I* couldn't use it!)
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> Because of Yahoo, I came within an ace of not bothering to re-join this
> forum again. If I hadn't known it was good from my past expeienmce a
> couple of years ago, I definitely wouldn't have joined because of
> Yahoo's policies. If somebody sets up an alternative SVG discussion
> forum using something like GNU mailman and doesn't require a lot of
> marketing demograpohics information, I'd be there like a shot and would
> never go back to a Yahoo forum again. I'm sure Yahoo's policy has turned
> others off from checking this group out; especially these days now that
> we all know the questionable uses to which concentrated information
> harvesting is put.
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> - Bill Thoen
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