Ronan,

You have time to read emails but not to check a feed for new entries?
 I happen to use the feed provided by Yahoo for this list and go to
the web page occasionally when bored, I hardly ever interface through
email.

The differences between the Yahoo-provided web interface and a
full-fledged forum are actually pretty minimal..

Jeff


--- In [email protected], Ronan Oger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> We don't have a 'proper' web forum because this is a mailing list.
> For a web forum, go to svg café. Many People on this mailing list
like it that 
> way. 
> 
> Web forums require readers to be online to view/reply to postings. They 
> further require that participants visit the pages actively rather than 
> passively recieve queries by email. 
> 
> I am far too busy to do this, and would therefore not participate in
the 
> discussion in this group. Also, web forums are expensive to operate
due to 
> their much larger bandwidth than email and therefore have obtrusive 
> advertising using increasingly taxing technologies, and I simply do not 
> desire to be buried in advertising junk. With my text-only emails
option on 
> yahoo groups, I can easily parse out the junk and concentrate on the
content.
> 
> We could go and have a very long thread about the relative pros and
cons of 
> web forums and mailing lists, but the fact remains: this is a
mailing list 
> for which yahoo groups includes a web interface. You are welcome to go 
> interact in a web forum, but don't count on me to answer questions
there as I 
> do not have time.
> 
> For a historical perspective, you may look up web forum in the 2002
or 2003 
> archive for the group. The idea was extensively discussed back then.
> 
> Ronan
> 
> On Wednesday 19 April 2006 08:17, Richard Gnyla wrote:
> > I agree, for some reason I had to also resubscribe as well and pretty
> > much this Yahoo Forum pi**ess me off as I now have had to subscribe 3
> > times in about 2 years or so.
> >
> > What I cant understand is why we dont have a proper forum rather then
> > this ancient yahoo group thing, I reckon it puts people off. I
remember
> > a svgcafe.com forum that happened and was better laid out than
this one
> > but didnt seem to gain much interest as no one on this forum
decided to
> > move over apart from a few of us
> >
> > Maybe its a cost issue to put up and run such a thing - the yahoo
one is
> > free i presume.
> >
> > But I agree with Bill - it's more likely putting people off joining
> >
> > Richard
> >
> > Bill Thoen wrote:
> > > Robin Berjon wrote:
> > >> I don't know if there are other fora for discussion, I know I
tend to
> > >> go to the #svg IRC channel on irc.freenode.net since a lot of
> > >> interesting discussions and help-giving tends to take place IMHO.
> > >
> > > One other thing... when I tried to re-up my subscription here on
the SVG
> > > developers forum, I found Yahoo's nosy (required) questionaire
really,
> > > really annoying. Their privacy policy is even worse (basically
it says
> > > they can do whatever they like with the info they gather from
> > > subscribers.) Since I have cookies turned off, that was a hassle
too. I
> > > tried several times to get re-subscribed, and each time I hadn't
done
> > > something right, it forced me to re-enter ALL the info again. So I
> > > filled out a bunch of lies, got signed up, but they managed to
> > > cross-reference my old info using my e-mail address anyway (even
though
> > > since I had forgotten my old password *I* couldn't use it!)
> > >
> > > Because of Yahoo, I came within an ace of not bothering to
re-join this
> > > forum again. If I hadn't known it was good from my past expeienmce a
> > > couple of years ago, I definitely wouldn't have joined because of
> > > Yahoo's policies. If somebody sets up an alternative SVG discussion
> > > forum using something like GNU mailman and doesn't require a lot of
> > > marketing demograpohics information, I'd be there like a shot
and would
> > > never go back to a Yahoo forum again. I'm sure Yahoo's policy
has turned
> > > others off from checking this group out; especially these days
now that
> > > we all know the questionable uses to which concentrated information
> > > harvesting is put.
> > >
> > > - Bill Thoen
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> -- 
> Ronan Oger
> Director
> RO IT Systems GmbH
>       ...Building Web2.0 with SVG since 2001
> 
> http://www.roitsystems.com
>







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