Hi everyone, Here is what I know of the history regarding MS supporting SVG in Visio.
When the SVG WG was formed in 1998, Visio was a separate company and a charter member of the working group. Sometime in the next few years, MS acquired Visio, but the appearances were that the Visio team was left intact for the most part and were allowed independence to deliver good products to their customers. According to statements at SVG Open in 2003 by MS/Visio people (and I was listening to them carefully because this was such a curiosity), Visio had a tower of babel problem because there were many different graphics formats, each requiring their own exporters and importer. In 2003, SVG seemed to be gaining industry traction. One of the Visio execs got up in front of SVG Open and told the audience that the majority of the companies on their customer advisory board had SVG projects underway. Additionally, there was lots of other industry indication that SVG was a happening thing in the industry. Nearly all of the software products with whom Visio needed to work with supported SVG and SVG had the features that Visio needed. Therefore, Visio invested considerable effort to use SVG as its unifying format for exchanging graphics data with other graphics software packages. Presumably, VML would not have been a good match for their requirements because few products export or import VML as an interchange format, possibly because there is no official spec for VML, just the draft spec that was sent to the W3C back in 1998 (http://www.w3.org/TR/NOTE-VML.html). Jon Jon Ferraiolo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Web Architect, Emerging Technologies IBM, Menlo Park, CA Mobile: +1-650-926-5865 "dr.cataclyst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] hoo.com> To Sent by: [email protected] [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc hoogroups.com Subject [svg-developers] Re: Just noticed a 04/10/2007 12:00 lack of VML support PM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] hoogroups.com David, I have been watching the dojo project for some time now and think it is wonderful. Preferring YUI for my js though I have been looking for an XSLT or extremely small javascript solution to providing cross-browser vector graphic compatibility. I have been watching a few people working on svg/vml combo projects as well. lorien.henrywilkins, kyle.scholz have a google project for this purpose that is a tiny js file . http://code.google.com/p/svg2vml/ also * Giorgio Massaro - [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Angelo Di Iorio - [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Fabio Vitali - [EMAIL PROTECTED] of the Universita Di Bologna have a very functional svg-->vml-->gif and back again converter which is progressing nicely. http://vitali.web.cs.unibo.it/Progetti/VectorConverter *** I like the converters XSL implementation, because it allows me to build complicated graphics in Inkscape and simply run the xslt after a browser check. Daniel on MS and vml: I do find it a bit odd that they do not support their own vector format from a vector graphics application like Visio 2007. That said, --- In [email protected], "meikelneu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- David "ddailey" wrote: > > > > FWIW, IE7 continues VML support. > > I hope they don't discontinue it > > since for some (simple) things I like the option > > of providing VML as an alternative to SVG > > if the plugin doesn't exist. > > that's exactly what the dojo guys (as in dojotoolkit.org) are doing > with dojo.gfx, see here > > http://www.sitepen.com/blog/2007/03/27/ajaxworld-and-sxsw-talks-on-dojogfx/ > > they said ie7 broke some vml stuff compared to ie6 but still have > confidence in using it. > > Michael > ----- To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" ---- Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ----- To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" ---- Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
