Good point about (S) (T).  I agree it's redundant.  (T) alone works.  What
about (C)?  The original reason that we had (C) was for a game that was
sealed, but had become "compressed" due to the air getting sucked out of the
shrink.  However, the current wording for MobyScale could also use (C) for any
crushed box -- sealed or not.  Should (C) be used in place of (S), or should
it be used for any crushed box?

I think it should be used in place of (S).  A crushed (not not sealed) box
could simply be downgraded (for example -- ED).

Hugh

On Mon, 7 Oct 2002 17:30:07 -0500 "C.E. Forman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> >One thing that might make the list
> shorter...I've never used IM and MMC
> >modifiers for the same game
> 
> I'm already set up to use both modifiers.  It
> may be a bit superfluous, but
> I prefer it simply because it's more accurate
> at a glance.  If you look at a
> modifier of "IM" your first thought would be
> it's missing at least one prop.
> But if you saw both "IM" and "MMC", you'd
> immediately know it's missing both
> a prop *and* at least one minor item.
> 
> On a similar topic, I notice in a previous
> message that you gave an example
> using "NM (S)(T)".  Here I never include both
> modifiers, only the "T".  In
> this case the "S" is redundant, since you can't
> have torn wrap if you don't
> have wrap.
> 
> >Why do I say IM/IM might be wrong?  Well IM is
> a modifier and not actually
> a
> >condition and therefore shouldn't stand on
> it's own. Thoughts?
> 
> When I have a single loose prop or disk (or a
> completely empty box), I grade
> it with only only one Mobyscore based on its
> condition.  When I have
> multiple loose pieces from the same game, I
> Mobyscore the props together and
> use "IM" as the box score (and another "IM" as
> a modifier if it's not a
> complete set of loose props).  To me, "IM" is a
> box rating or a modifier (or
> both), but never a props rating.
> 
> I've never used "NM (S)", either.  If it's mint
> and sealed it's "MS".  If
> it's sealed but with a minor defect it's "F
> (S)".  The only sealed modifier
> I use with "NM" is "T", for sealed but with
> torn wrap (so it can't be truly
> mint).
> 
> As for disk sleeves, I treat them as a minor
> component, so "MMC" would apply
> if the sleeve is not the original.
> 
> I would request that we not expand the
> Mobyscale.  It was designed to be
> flexible so individual collectors can tailor it
> to their individual needs.
> For me, all possible conditions of an item can
> already be described using
> the current notations.  Due to the time
> required to recode YOIS to accept
> new modifiers, I would not be implementing
> them.
> 
> 
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