"Look at the new macbook air's for example, they don't come with flash
preinstalled."

You are absolutely right.  Until they visit the internet with Flash Ads,
Flash Video, Flash games.  I bet that within the first day of anyone owning
a Mac, they install flash player on it.

I do see your point on the subject though and I am just busting your chops
(especially since you brought Apple into it).  If you do indeed feel it is a
bug, you could always post it to the Google Project page:
http://code.google.com/p/swfobject/issues/list

-Nathan




On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 12:48 AM, rabbledabble <[email protected]> wrote:

> Its not a "browser" thing.  I just reverted to swfobject 1.5 and it
> works as I expected.  Since no one believes me that its a bug with
> swfobject 2.2, I will give up on arguing this topic.
>
> >> Besides, it's very rare for any user to not have flash player installed
> on
> their machine.
>
> This is a naive development approach especially when your web
> application is touching millions of users.  Look at the new macbook
> air's for example, they don't come with flash preinstalled.
>
> On Nov 4, 9:31 pm, Nathan Mynarcik <[email protected]> wrote:
> > It's not a swfObject issue.  "It's a browser thing."  Having to refresh
> is
> > just like any other programs you update.  They all have to be restarted
> in
> > order for the new changes to take effect.
> >
> > Besides, it's very rare for any user to not have flash player installed
> on
> > their machine.
> >
> > Nathan Mynarcik
> > [email protected]
> >
> > <http://www.mynarcik.com/feed/rss.xml>
> > <http://www.twitter.com/NMynarcik>
> > <http://www.facebook.com/pages/Nathan-Mynarcik-Interactive-Web-Develop..
> .>
> >   <http://www.linkedin.com/in/nathanmynarcik>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 12:16 AM, rabbledabble <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > Regardless, if you uninstall / reinstall Flash, you should definitely
> > > > restart the browser before testing...
> >
> > > This seems really counter intuitive from a user perspective.  If i
> > > have never installed flash, go to a page with flash on it, click a
> > > link to install flash, then go back to the page, I will be wondering
> > > why exactly it doesn't work.  It seems an unnecessary extra step for
> > > the user to have to refresh the page.  I swear that version 1.5 did
> > > not have this problem at all.
> >
> > > On Nov 4, 7:16 pm, Aran Rhee <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > Sorry for the confusion - Express install is a mechanism to update
> your
> > > > Flash player if FP 6.0.65 and greater is already installed. If you
> have
> > > no
> > > > Flash player, then no, EI cannot be used (as it is activated through
> > > Flash
> > > > player)
> >
> > > > The registrarion of your Flash player can sometimes become corrupted
> > > > (meaning SWFObejct cannot detect the version correctly). Perhaps this
> is
> > > > what happened?
> >
> > > >http://code.google.com/p/swfobject/wiki/faq
> >
> > > > <http://code.google.com/p/swfobject/wiki/faq>#2 / #3
> >
> > > > Regardless, if you uninstall / reinstall Flash, you should definitely
> > > > restart the browser before testing...
> >
> > > > Aran
> >
> > > > On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 5:56 PM, rabbledabble <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > > > > > If you install Flash manually, then I would expect wonky behavior
> > > until
> > > > > you
> > > > > > restart the browser to let the plugin register properly....
> > > > > This wasn't the case for swfobject 1.5. Also, i have never gotten
> that
> > > > > express install to work. Should it launch even if you have flash
> not
> > > > > installed?
> >
> > > > > On Nov 4, 3:53 pm, Aran Rhee <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > well, you pass null in as your expressInstall.swf location, so
> you
> > > won't
> > > > > get
> > > > > > any in page Flash player updating (which will update the player,
> then
> > > > > > display your content without having to refresh in most browsers)
> >
> > > > > > If you install Flash manually, then I would expect wonky behavior
> > > until
> > > > > you
> > > > > > restart the browser to let the plugin register properly....
> >
> > > > > > Aran
> >
> > > > > > On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 3:51 PM, rabbledabble <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > Code example:
> > > > > > >http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=TWVS52HF
> >
> > > > > > > On Nov 3, 10:54 am, rabbledabble <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > I have a simple html page with a button that when clicked
> will
> > > > > display
> > > > > > > > a video in a container using the swfobject.embedSWF function.
>  I
> > > did
> > > > > a
> > > > > > > > test where i uninstalled flash from my machine (control
> > > panel->add
> > > > > > > > remove programs), then loaded my page and tried clicking the
> > > button
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > > show the video. As expected it did not show.  However, after
> > > > > > > > installing flash, then coming back to the same page (not
> > > reloaded),
> > > > > > > > the link still wont embed the video.  I notice the callback
> says
> > > > > > > > "success:false".  If I reload the page, however, it will work
> as
> > > > > > > > expected.
> >
> > > > > > > > Is this a flaw in swfobject or the way I am implementing
> this?  I
> > > > > know
> > > > > > > > in swfobject1.5 this worked just fine.
> >
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