Hi Raph,

>On Sat, 21 May 2011 16:36:00 +0300
>Raph <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Chris,
> 
> All the message could be said that way: why trying to replace flash by 
> html when html is worse.

I wasn't aware 'they' ( w3c? ) were trying to replace Flash?  Merely
extending html itself.  With progress (?) always come glitches, be it
hardware or software.  But I'm sure those glitches will eventually be
ironed out.

> Ok to have degraded version for "non willing to be compatible" devices 
> but imposing it for all user is counter productive.

There will always be those who don't, or point blank refuse to keep up
with or otherwise meet current trends. Either because they can't really
be bothered, or that their vision of the future is better!  For those who 
follow trends 'just because' it's a keeping up with the Jones' sort of
oneupmanship, the words sheep an lemmings spring to mind. ;o)

> Also why converting a pdf version to a more verbose and less optimize 
> markup language, that hangs computers and lacks fidelity, when all the 
> flash conversions purpose is to be lighter faster and easier to 
> integrate in custom interfaces...

That sounds a bit melodramatic if I may say so.. 'Beware, information
overload. The end is Nigh!'.  pdf is only one way of presenting one's
information to the world.  It is not the be all and end all.

> Bringing apple into this conversation is logical because they are the 
> origin of these attempts to replace flash where it's still a lot better.

Apple are as guilty of punishing standards as anyone else.  Besides, for them, 
whatever is done is by necessity, usually integral to a forceful
marketing strategy aimed at pushing the next 'must have' device.  I am
pleased to report that I don't have an 'i'-anything in my possession,
nor in my sights.  Nor will I probably be swayed by anything they produce.
Just maybe it is I who is the visoneer? :o)

All that said, I'm still a little confused as to what point of view you are
actually trying to push forward.  Simple terms for a simple man, maybe?

Regards,


Chris.

> Le 03/04/2011 09:30, Chris a écrit :
> >> On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 11:05:34 +0300
> >> Raphaël Benzazon<[email protected]>  wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I hope the dev is moving ahead nicely.
> > I think it is proceeding well.
> >
> >> I have to admit that the first and last scribd publication that I visited
> >> was making my powerful desktop PC hang.
> > That could be caused by anything - user error? ;o)  But why bring scribd
> > into this?
> >
> >> It seems that the html is not the solution when it comes to reproduce or
> >> convert publication for internet.
> > Sweeping statement. Not necessarily true either. Markup changes constantly.
> >
> >> It was so slow compared the the previous flash version, that was
> >> painful to accept that scribd made such a bad technological choice.
> > Again, not sure what that statement has to do with SWFTools.
> >
> >> Maybe they listen too much the the pseudo prohet Jobs.
> > .. co-founder and CEO of consumer electronics company Apple Inc? ;o)
> > What has he to do with all this?
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> >
> >
> > Chris ( retiring - not surprisedly - somewhat confused )
> >
> >
> >> Greetings
> >>
> >> Raphaël
> >>
> >> Le 09/05/2010 05:41, Matthias Kramm a écrit :
> >>> On Sat, May 08, 2010 at 12:44:57PM +0200, filip 
> >>> sound<[email protected]>   wrote:
> >>>> Matthias, i can't believe all this...
> >>>> are you serious? you want the browser to render complex
> >>>> graphics/shapes/gradients and texts (pdf) all in html?
> >>> Well, what Scribd currently does is text and bitmaps.
> >>> Vector shapes (gradients etc.) are in my queue, problem is that 
> >>> cross-browser
> >>> compatibilty of SVG, Canvas etc. is much worse than that of custom
> >>> fonts.
> >>>
> >>>> the performance will
> >>>> not be anything near the performance you get when running it on a plugin
> >>>> that has full access to the cpu.
> >>> Why? The browser has full access to the CPU, too, after all.
> >>> Also, Javascript engines have gotten ridiculously fast.
> >>>
> >>> Matthias
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> -- 
> >
> 
> 


-- 
Chris <[email protected]>

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