> On Feb 2, 2017, at 10:29 PM, Ted kremenek <kreme...@apple.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On Feb 2, 2017, at 6:36 PM, Karl Wagner <razie...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:razie...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>> 
>>> On 3 Feb 2017, at 02:55, Ted kremenek <kreme...@apple.com 
>>> <mailto:kreme...@apple.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Feb 2, 2017, at 12:58 PM, Karl Wagner via swift-evolution 
>>> <swift-evolution@swift.org <mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Personally I think that's an absurd reason not to move to a forum. What is 
>>>> your complaint? That it's _too_ inclusive? That others only have trivial 
>>>> things to say? Frankly, every way I try to interpret your comment makes it 
>>>> come off as snobbery.
>>> 
>>> Hi Karl,
>>> 
>>> I appreciate your candor here, but let's avoid making these comments sound 
>>> personal.  This is a thread prompting polarized opinions, and most of it 
>>> has been civil and productive.  Let's keep it that way.  I do respect that 
>>> you are anxious to see progress on the resolution of the topic, but these 
>>> same points could be made in a less antagonistic way.
>>> 
>>> I encourage all of you to re-read this part of the Code of Conduction on 
>>> Swift.org <http://swift.org/>:
>>> 
>>>> Examples of unacceptable behavior by participants include:
>>>> 
>>>> The use of sexualized language or imagery
>>>> Personal attacks
>>>> Trolling or insulting/derogatory comments
>>>> Public or private harassment
>>>> Publishing other’s private information, such as physical or electronic 
>>>> addresses, without explicit permission
>>>> Other unethical or unprofessional conduct
>>>> Project maintainers have the right and responsibility to remove, edit, or 
>>>> reject comments, commits, code, wiki edits, issues, and other 
>>>> contributions that are not aligned to this Code of Conduct, or to ban 
>>>> temporarily or permanently any contributor for other behaviors that they 
>>>> deem inappropriate, threatening, offensive, or harmful.
>>>> 
>>> Thank you,
>>> Ted
>>> 
>> 
>> As I explained to Erica, it isn’t meant to be read personally. What I said 
>> is that the community should be as inclusive as possible and that 
>> prejudicing certain opinions as “trivial” conceptually runs against that.
> 
> I appreciate that perspective — and I personally agree with that point.  My 
> cautionary statement — which was also directed at others on the thread — was 
> to ensure that the thread remains amicable, and that our choice of our words 
> match our intentions as the arguments become potentially polarized.

"Trivial" describes the briefness of the response and  *not* the quality of 
opinions. Quick back and forth comments that fit well on forums can produce an 
explosion of emails. Moving to a forum that supports email mirroring does not 
produce the same experience for those using mail clients. 

-- E


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