on Fri Aug 18 2017, Erica Sadun <swift-evolution@swift.org> wrote:
On Aug 17, 2017, at 9:29 PM, Taylor Swift <kelvin1...@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 9:06 PM, Erica Sadun via swift-evolution <swift-evolution@swift.org <mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org>> wrote:

On Aug 17, 2017, at 6:56 PM, Xiaodi Wu <xiaodi...@gmail.com <mailto:xiaodi...@gmail.com>> wrote: On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 7:51 PM, Erica Sadun <er...@ericasadun.com <mailto:er...@ericasadun.com>> wrote: What people are doing is taking a real set of values (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, for example), then discarding them via `_ in`, which is different from `Void -> T` or `f(x) = 0 * x`. The domain could just as easily be (Foo(), "b", 💩, UIColor.red, { x: Int in x^x }). There are too many semantic shifts away from "I would like to collect the execution of this closure n times" for it to sit comfortably. What arguments might help to alleviate this discomfort? Clearly, functions exist that can map this delightfully heterogeneous domain to some sort of range that the user wants. Would you feel better if we wrote instead the following? ``` repeatElement((), count: 5).map { UIView() } ```
My favorite solution is the array initializer. Something along the lines of `Array<T>(count n: Int, generator: () -> T)`. I'm not sure it _quite_ reaches standard library but I think it is a solid way to say "produce a collection with a generator run n times". It's a common task. I was asking around about this, and found that a lot of us who work with both macOS and iOS and want to stress test interfaces do this very often. Other use cases include "give me n random numbers", "give me n records from this database", etc. along similar lines. The difference between this and the current `Array(repeating:count:)` initializer is switching the arguments and using a trailing closure (or an autoclosure) rather than a set value. That API was designed without the possibility that you might want to repeat a generator, so there's a bit of linguistic turbulence. -- E To me at least, this is a very i-Centric complaint, since I can barely remember the last time I needed something like this for anything that didn’t involve UIKit. What you’re asking for is API sugar for generating reference types with less typing.

No, that's what the original thread poster wanted. I want to avoid breaking math.

I know it's late to chime in here, but IMO (mutable) reference types and the exposure of === “break math,” and I think that's the real effect you're seeing here.

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-Dave

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