Jonathan,

Customers don't have just one email address, they have a private one (maybe 
several) and some from the company. Then they are changing the location from 
home to the office an back with their notebook. Maybe their mail provider is 
not the same as the internet service provider. So they want to use the mail 
server from their mail provider (With authentication of course)

You cannot really expect, that they reconfigure the mail client every time they 
change the location. (But there is still Port 587!)

Radek


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Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von jonathan
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 11. April 2007 15:31
An: [email protected]
Betreff: Re: [swinog] Re: blocking ports?

Sorry but I disagree with Per.  ISPs have a duty to prevent email Spam 
which is a terrible curse for us all.  If they decide that blocking port 
25 outbound will help then they should do it.

If you are a user, why can't you use the ISPs relay server? If you are a 
provider you ought to have your own mail server on a fixed IP address.

Of course, one day we need a better protocol than SMTP (*Simple* Mail 
Transfer Protocol) which was never meant as a global email solution.  
But until then we have to do something to stop people abusing it.

Just my 2p worth

Jonathan
Safe Host Geneva



Per Jessen wrote:
> Scott Weeks wrote:
>
>   
>> ---------From: Jeroen Massar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>-------------
>> : To avoid problems there, make a simple policy: if found
>> : spreading a virus/spamming and having disabled the blockage:
>> : no Internet for a week.  Or a similar measure that can of
>> : course be lifted after paying a fine.
>>
>> Wouldn't that make customers go to another comany for service?
>>     
>
> Most probably.  About three years ago, prior to us becoming a service
> provider ourselves, we were "just" a customer, and had to sack our
> provider when they decided to reduce their service by blocking port 25.  
>
> Personally, I believe any and all restrictions on an internet connection
> must be be very clearly and very obviously stated in the product/
> service description, and that is something many ISPs neglect to do.
>
>
> /Per
>
>
>   

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