Hi,

(did not read the whole thread here, so sorry for might saying things
already said before)

Backup MX is a good thing and a good service to offer for business
customers (even there are many different definitions of business
customer in the ISP world :)) with their own mail server. Problem, as
stated before, is that it's hard for you to do full validation against
spam, virus and most important "recipient" validation. the worst thing
you can do is accepting all mail for a domain.

the problem is, every customer has another type of mail server (even
if there are a lot of ms exchange servers of course). so you would
need a way to propagate user database from the customer server to your
server in a reliable way.

an easy way around this is offering an mx proxy service instead of the
mx backup. that means customer domain mx goes to your server, your
server does "recipient validation" with caching. that means on each
incoming mail your server will ask the customers server (in a standard
smtp dialogue) if the recipient exists and only then accepts the mail
on your server. this checking results are cached and that way your
server can also accept mails in the case where the customers server is
off-line for a while.

but as also said here before: to offer such a service you really need
what you're doing, there is nothing worse than a bad configured mail
server in the internet :) so if you have the possibility work with a
partner which knows the technology well.

greets
Marco

On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 6:57 PM, Viktor Steinmann <[email protected]> wrote:
> Heya Benoit
>
> Here's the view from a Business customer, who used to work for ISPs:
>
>
>> - Why would business customers _need_ their ISP to operate a backup MX for
>> them?
>
> - If the customer is multihomed, there's almost no need for this. One
> exception: Customer wants to catch possible misconfiguration of DNS and/or
> mailserver on his side.
> - For a non-multihomed customer, mail or Internet in general should not be
> *that* business critical. If the customer doesn't want to be multihomed, but
> still sees mail as a business critical application, I would recommend to
> outsource mail serivces completely (newspeak: cloud).
>
>
>> - Is it true, that most ISP offer this kind of service?
>
> If there's a paying customer, there's a services who will provide the
> service. I remember that in the "old" days of the internet, we would
> implement almost every hack for customers. Nowadays, that marketing people,
> project managers and process designers are running ISPs, it's most probably
> not that common anymore...
>
> Kind regards,
> Viktor
>
>
>
>
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