As I said, SwiNOG should not become a "club"... The whole discussion about too many participant just started because there is no place at the actual meeting, aka we need a bigger place, aka more costs.
I don't want to keep out people, but it is more than correct to participate to the SwiNOG costs. If sponsors are still around and willing to pay for the meeting they are welcome. In this case the fee could be used to cover the dinner after the meeting. See ya, Daniele ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Morgan Salomon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 2:50 PM Subject: Re: [swinog] Swinog-6 - Too many participants > I'd pay a fee, but only if it were charged to really cover and > reflect costs, not out of general principle to keep out random people. > > Cheers, > > -John > > > Steven Glogger wrote: > > >hi ppl > > > > > > > >>What about a membership fee to cover (or partly cover) the costs > >>of the meetings ? > >> > >> > > > >hmm... seems a good idea .) so we don't have to listen to the > >markting-presentations anymore :) *G* > > > >-steven > > > > > > > >>-----Original Message----- > >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>Behalf Of Daniele Guazzoni > >>Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 2:02 PM > >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>Subject: Re: [swinog] Swinog-6 - Too many participants > >> > >> > >>I totally agree with you Thomas. > >> > >>Personally I'm looking for a job (and I think I'm not the only > >>one) but still > >>interested about the Swiss Internet scene. > >>I think it's a bad step to try to create an exclusive and elitary > >>club out of > >>the open-minded SwiNOG. > >>I can understand that the organisation of a meeting is not for > >>free and in the > >>actual economic situation even "big companies" think twice before > >>spending a > >>couple of hundred francs. > >>What about a membership fee to cover (or partly cover) the costs > >>of the meetings > >>? > >>People which are really interested will not have a problem to pay > >>let say 50.-- > >>/Year. > >> > >>Greets Daniele > >> > >>----- Original Message ----- > >>From: "Thomas Kernen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 1:46 PM > >>Subject: Re: [swinog] Swinog-6 - Too many participants > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>>Catching up on threads so sorry about the delay. > >>> > >>>I personnally don't agree in limiting the amount of people and > >>> > >>> > >>the horizon, > >> > >> > >>>people that are not "concerned" with Operations will maybe only > >>> > >>> > >>attend one > >> > >> > >>>meeting and then understand that there is no really interest > >>> > >>> > >>for them. Take > >> > >> > >>>also the case of "consultants" that don't actually operate a network but > >>>advise others on how to improve their operations, does that > >>> > >>> > >>mean they can't > >> > >> > >>>come to the meetings? > >>> > >>>I would prefer to pay a little, get a larger room, have 3 > >>> > >>> > >>meetings a year > >> > >> > >>>and allow all the people that are interested in the content of > >>> > >>> > >>the meetings > >> > >> > >>>to attend. > >>> > >>>My .2 cents > >>>Thomas > >>> > >>>----- Original Message ----- > >>>From: "Patrick Studer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 11:43 AM > >>>Subject: [swinog] Swinog-6 - Too many participants > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>Hi Together > >>>> > >>>>We know, we was not the fasted for registriation to the swinog6, > >>>>but we are asking, if the swinog-meeting should not be restricted > >>>>a little bit, if there is not to much place. > >>>> > >>>>We have seen, that some company sent out > >>>>5-6 People (i.e. IP-Plus). At the other hand, we have seen, that > >>>>there are participants, which are not realy swiss network operators > >>>>(i.E. Roche or Students). We thought, that this meetings are in > >>>>primary to exchange information between the swiss network operators > >>>>(ISP's). > >>>> > >>>>We don't think that this user group should be A CUG, but perhaps > >>>>if there isn't enoght place, that at first, ISP are welcome (max. 2 > >>>> > >>>> > >>>persons > >>> > >>> > >>>>per ISP), and if there is still place, the could be also > >>>> > >>>> > >>other peoples. > >> > >> > >>>>That should be just an idea to think about. 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