Re: [swinog] Swinog-6 - Too many participants

[John Morgan Salomon]

You could limit access to people who

-are wearing a suit and tie
-shaved today
-aren't completely wired on caffeine
-have slept enough in the last few weeks
-aren't wearing a tech or vendor t-shirt
-isn't carrying a pager or cell phone or both
I think that would pretty much serve to eliminate the superfluous
undesirable elements, and restrict access to the serious professional
engineers.
Cheers,

-John



Daniele Guazzoni wrote:

I don't need a sitting place...also don't need much space...
...I also started a diet...
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From: "Steven Glogger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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ciao daniele

i think the problem ist not, that we need a bigger place. maybe there is no
bigger place at this time in berne.
because as i know (all hotels are full) at the time we are there, there is
the worldcongress of the post.
steven

   

-----Original Message-----
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Behalf Of Daniele Guazzoni
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 2:53 PM
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Subject: Re: [swinog] Swinog-6 - Too many participants
As I said, SwiNOG should not become a "club"...
The whole discussion about too many participant just started
because there is no
place at the actual meeting, aka we need a bigger place, aka more costs.
I don't want to keep out people, but it is more than correct to
participate to
the SwiNOG costs.
If sponsors are still around and willing to pay for the meeting they are
welcome. In this case the fee could be used to cover the dinner after the
meeting.
See ya, Daniele

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Morgan Salomon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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I'd pay a fee, but only if it were charged to really cover and
reflect costs, not out of general principle to keep out random people.
Cheers,

-John

Steven Glogger wrote:

       

hi ppl



         

What about a membership fee to cover (or partly cover) the costs
of the meetings ?
           

hmm... seems a good idea .) so we don't have to listen to the
markting-presentations anymore :) *G*
-steven



         

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Daniele Guazzoni
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 2:02 PM
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I totally agree with you Thomas.

Personally I'm looking for a job (and I think I'm not the only
one) but still
interested about the Swiss Internet scene.
I think it's a bad step to try to create an exclusive and elitary
club out of
the open-minded SwiNOG.
I can understand that the organisation of a meeting is not for
free and in the
actual economic situation even "big companies" think twice before
spending a
couple of hundred francs.
What about a membership fee to cover (or partly cover) the costs
of the meetings
?
People which are really interested will not have a problem to pay
let say 50.--
/Year.
Greets Daniele

----- Original Message -----
From: "Thomas Kernen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 1:46 PM
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Catching up on threads so sorry about the delay.

I personnally don't agree in limiting the amount of people and

             

the horizon,

           

people that are not "concerned" with Operations will maybe only

             

attend one

           

meeting and then understand that there is no really interest

             

for them. Take

           

also the case of "consultants" that don't actually operate a
             

network but
     

advise others on how to improve their operations, does that

             

mean they can't

           

come to the meetings?

I would prefer to pay a little, get a larger room, have 3

             

meetings a year

           

and allow all the people that are interested in the content of

             

the meetings

           

to attend.

My .2 cents
Thomas
----- Original Message -----
From: "Patrick Studer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 11:43 AM
Subject: [swinog] Swinog-6 - Too many participants


             

Hi Together

We know, we was not the fasted for registriation to the swinog6,
but we are asking, if the swinog-meeting should not be restricted
a little bit, if there is not to much place.
We have seen, that some company sent out
5-6 People (i.e. IP-Plus). At the other hand, we have seen, that
there are participants, which are not realy swiss network operators
(i.E. Roche or Students). We thought, that this meetings are in
primary to exchange information between the swiss network operators
(ISP's).
We don't think that this user group should be A CUG, but perhaps
if there isn't enoght place, that at first, ISP are welcome (max. 2
               

persons

             

per ISP), and if there is still place, the could be also

               

other peoples.

           

That should be just an idea to think about. Comments welcome.

Regards

Patrick Studer

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