hi kurt > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Behalf Of Kurt A. Schumacher > Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 7:34 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [swinog] Mailempfang wegen SPAM blockiert / Mail receipt > because of Spam blocks >
> Don't know anything about your IP range planning, but you better don't > mix-up (free) dial-up IP ranges from your infrastructure, if you allow > "free" Internet dial-up you better stopped it YESTERDAY. this is also one of the main problems. since there are providers offering free dialup (even without registration!!) they are more attactive to spammers than others. for ISP's offering free dialup that can be abused i think a solution like fredy's i quite nice (not perfect, but nice). but the main problem is, that sending spam is much cheaper then snail mail, and since are a lot of idiots using the internet and buying peppersprays or black socks from spammers, the spamming will go on. it's like a neverending fight between dark and bright side. but the ISP should be on the bright side and fight for the 'free internet'. if we fail one day (we come back to pascals post some weeks ago) we'll have to define what should be open, because the rest will be blocked. byebye freedom then... > Why bother? Econophone's mail.econophone.com appears not listed > on 250+ RBL confirmed : http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/ip4r.ch?ip=212.53.96.134 ;-) > PS. Looking forward: When do we start implementing RMX (Reverse Mail > Exchange) records in DNS, following the IETF proposal? And then: Don't add > entries on your complete IP net block, just the designated SMTP servers > please... RMX or on the other way AMTP is not the 'super-duper-solution' aginst spam ;-) there will be people dont know how to configure or even implement it. and even if implemented where will be some problems. let's say you host domain XYZ.com and allow your customers to send email from your ip range. what if that company has people in germany working for it, then you have to allow whole t-online? what if the spammer uses not a real domain but a dynamical domain (e.g. dyndns or XYZ.ch.vu). he might be allowed to send mail out. i'm sure spammers can circument those configurations with own infrastructure of something like that. and dont forget: you will never put a rule "dont accept mail from NON-RMX / AMTP servers". because you know, that the internet is fast growing but slow changing. remember IPv6? how many providers world-wide have implemented it yet? 2% 1%? i dont know. but i dont know many people reading NOW this list will be able to see IPv4 disappearing from the net... -steven ---------------------------------------------- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maillist-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/swinog%40swinog.ch/
