Hello Steven
 
Hm - probably got carried away a bit at that ;-). Just imagine, Mr. F�rst downloading 
my PGP public key and sending me a personalized, encrypted commercial mail offering me 
a - gosh! - pair of black socks ;-). Would probably make it through my first two 
anti-spam layers :-|
 
Regards
Fermin

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Steven Glogger
Sent: Thu 10/30/03 13:52
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [swinog] Mailempfang wegen SPAM blockiert / Mail receipt because of Spam 
blocks


hi fermin
 
what the hell has PGP with SMTP to do? it uses the same communication channel ;-)
 
And more: what the hell has PGP with SPAM to do??
 
greetzs
 
steven 
 
PGP: http://searchsecurity.techtarget.com/sDefinition/0,,sid14_gci214292,00.html or 
www.pgpi.org

        -----Original Message-----
        From: Fermin Sanchez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Fermin Sanchez
        Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 1:43 PM
        To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
        Subject: RE: [swinog] Mailempfang wegen SPAM blockiert / Mail receipt because 
of Spam blocks
        
        
        Hi
         
        Ever heard about PGP? As long as my mail is PGP encrypted, I'd invite about 
any agency to take their best shot at it. For customers who don't want to send 
encrypted mail (or are not capable of), there's still the possibility to get an 
xDSL-Connection with a static IP address. imo Providers should only block dial-up and 
other dynamic IP ranges from sending mail. As soon as the IP address can be clearly 
assigned to a company or private person AND there's still SPAM from it, the offender's 
provider could then block outgoing port 25 connections. Again, let me know if I'm 
oversimplyfying the matter ...
         
        Regards
        Fermin

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        From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Peter Keel
        Sent: Wed 10/29/03 19:48
        To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
        Subject: Re: [swinog] Mailempfang wegen SPAM blockiert / Mail receipt because 
of Spam blocks
        
        

        * on the Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 06:27:12PM +0100, Fermin Sanchez wrote:
        > Hm - pardon my asking, but: What (legal) reason should a dial-up
        > user have to send mail over his own mail server? I don't see the
        > problem in banning *dial-up*-ranges of providers which repeatedly
        > fail to prevent spam from sometimes repeatedly the same sources.
        
        Simple: Running an outgoing-Mailserver on its own. Why? ISPs got
        to friggin keep the logs of who sent out mail from our servers
        for _six_ month because some wannabe-gestapoheads decided so.
        That's a pretty strong incentive to run your own mailserver.
        
        Seegras
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