Here's another reply which Folken forgot to send to the list and asked me to forward it.
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=46rom: Folken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [swinog] LPI Certification - worth anything? Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 01:36:36 +0200 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mail-Followup-To: Folken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i
On Fri, Apr 23, 2004 at 11:11:57AM +0200, Beat Rubischon wrote: > Am 23.04.04 schrieb Daniel Lorch: > > So the crucial questions are (please answer honestly): > > 1. Did you know of this certification? Yes, I am LPI level 2 certified.
> > 2. If yes, do you accept it?
> I don't think, that this certification is something worth. Well I found the tests somewhat different than the ones I have seen so far. It asks for a very broad range of knowledge and the examples are based on pratical situations which you have to have experienced in order to comprehend them. For this exam you simply cannot just read books and write it back down. =20 That said I have not attended classes for the above exam, so I do not know how much and well they teach these classes.
If I was employing for a sysadmin position I'd defently prefeer somebody with that certification over another.=20 I'd think it would be a plus on any resume, if only for the catchy title. Switzerland is so "papierglauebig" that it won't hurt.=20
> Nothing is better then "Referenzen" - on the other hand, it's > completly impossible to sidegrade to IT business today. People > who learned a non-IT job like "KV" or a technical job wont get a > chance to start somewhere in IT and such certifications gives > them the only possibilities to show you something in case of an > application for employment.=20
That said I also agree with what Beat said above: Your best bet are References. The fastest way to earn these for a beginner is to do Internships at various IT jobs. I have found that this is quite difficult in Switzerland the only way seems to be either via a eth or other higher education institute, or a lot of "vitamin b". =20
> And those who learned "Informatiker"? > I know at least three guys who are searching for a job at the end > of their apprenticeship... It's also nothing worth in the real > world. Yep, the "Informatiker Lehre" ain't worth dirt. The only ones doing that and who I know that they will succeed, are without exception linux zealots.
IT is simply not something you can go to "school" for. No IT School I=20 have seen is able to transmit the amount of knowledge required for any tech job above "Pc-Supporter". (And even at that level they seldom do=20 a good job.)=20
> Certificates don't help much. Not for the certified > one. May be for the certification authority who earn a lot of > money for the certificate? LPI is rather cheap by comparison: 300.- per level. (Tests only.)
- Folken
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