On Apr 9, 6:34 pm, "Hassen Ben Tanfous" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> I think the whole Symfony community is glad to hear you enjoyed yourself
>
> Good luck in learning Symfony and some social skills
My social skills are fine. The symfony community needs to actually
FOLLOW the directions they give to users and see if they work or not.
> RTFM next time
The FM does not actually contain the information required for use
indexed in a useful manner. I own the symfony book and it does not
answer my question in a way that I can find. Pointing out the
locations of the "hidden" information would serve to answer all of my
questions.
/Joe
> On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 5:54 PM, Joe Kelsey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I find the YAML web site has wonderful, detailed documentation that
> > very quickly and explicitly explains everything that anyone needs to
> > know about YAML. I really enjoyed reading the spec.
>
> > /Joe
>
> > On Apr 9, 12:06 pm, "Alistair Stead" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > > Joe,
> > > Just to save you finding another tools documentation less then useful.
> > The
> > > YAML website will simply explain how YAML can be used as a configuration
> > > tool. That site will contain very little help when it comes to your
> > specific
> > > problems of implementation.
>
> > > I would suggest that the wiki, snippets, forums, and other developers
> > blogs
> > > would be a better starting point. There is an abundance of information
> > out
> > > there... But an individual developer needs to take some responsibility
> > for
> > > holes in their own knowledge. Rather than berating the developers who
> > have
> > > invested a large amount of time in producing the symfony project and
> > making
> > > if freely available, maybe you could read the book and updated
> > documentation
> > > online.... then maybe after that you will feel better informed?
>
> > > I only feel the need to comment as I read the developer list so that I
> > can
> > > better understand the symfony project as it develops through its release
> > but
> > > your constant bickering is driving me and I'm sure a number of other
> > > to despair..
>
> > > This isn't François by the way
>
> > > On 09/04/2008, Joe Kelsey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > Thank you for the reference. The lack of indexing and other search
> > > > terms is very frustrating.
>
> > > > I have only received the printed book last week and am going through
> > > > it slowly.
>
> > > > The online documentation is only as good as the indexing can make it.
> > > > The lack of an index is very frustrating. I searched for "fixtures"
> > > > and "fixtures.yml" and only came across the reference in unit test
> > > > chapter. I will now go to the yaml web site and read there.
>
> > > > I am not intentionally trying to be rude. I simply write facts down.
> > > > If you insist on taking offense to the simple presentation of facts,
> > > > then you need to adjust your attitude. My personal attitude is that I
> > > > am trying to use a reasonable tool that has some small problems that
> > > > the developers apparantly cannot see.
>
> > > > /Joe
>
> > > > On Apr 9, 9:54 am, "Francois Zaninotto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> > > > project.com> wrote:
> > > > > Dear Joe,
>
> > > > > Did you read pages 358-361 (Chapter 16) of the symfony book? There
> > is a
> > > > > subsection called 'using linked tables' there, which pretty much
> > > > explains
> > > > > the way to reference another record in a fixture file.
>
> > > > > Now I know what you're going to say: there is no trace of this
> > section
> > > > in
> > > > > the index, and the book is very badly written, and your bug is still
> > not
> > > > > fixed. Perhaps you're wondering if all the people who send posts to
> > the
> > > > > symfony mailing-list and forum are not fake people, since the
> > framework
> > > > > simply doesn't work at all. There is no way thousands of people
> > could
> > > > build
> > > > > symfony applications with such a lousy product.
>
> > > > > I'll tell you what: you are right. There is no such thing as the
> > symfony
> > > > > framework. I write all the posts myself (I have a lot of different
> > > > > identities).
>
> > > > > I just do that to make fun of people. They look so funny when they
> > start
> > > > > reading the fake book, and realize that this framework stuff is just
> > a
> > > > con.
> > > > > I know, this is pathetic.
>
> > > > > When they realize that, people stop trying with symfony and simply
> > > > switch to
> > > > > Code Ignitor, which is much better. Perhaps you shoud give it a try?
>
> > > > > Cheers,
>
> > > > > François
>
> > > > > 2008/4/9, Joe Kelsey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> > > > > > On Apr 5, 12:02 am, Fabien POTENCIER <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > project.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > The bug IS fixed.
>
> > > > > > The bug is NOT fixed.
>
> > > > > > > The fixture file takes class names as main keys, not table
> > names.
> > > > But
> > > > > > > I'm sure you already know that as it's well described in the
> > symfony
> > > > > > book.
>
> > > > > > There is no documentation on fixtures anywhere in the symfony book
> > > > > > EXCEPT for a small section in the testing chapter which describes
> > > > > > using fixtures.yml to load arbitrary unit-test data. At least,
> > there
> > > > > > is no reference to fixtures.yml in the Index except for the
> > reference
> > > > > > to unit-test data. Specifically, I cannot find any references to
> > > > > > fixtures.yml that specifically describes using names instead of
> > > > > > indexes for key values.
>
> > > > > > > If you think there is still a bug, please open a new ticket,
> > > > describe
> > > > > > > the problem, attach a patch that fixes the problem with unit
> > tests
> > > > that
> > > > > > > prove the patch, and prepend the ticket description with
> > [PATCH].
>
> > > > > > You can demonstrate the bug by simply installing the sfGuardPlugin
> > in
> > > > > > a NEW project, and attempt to build a database and load the
> > fixture.
> > > > > > The load will fail.
>
> > > > > > > The core team read all tickets as they are created. My first
> > reply
> > > > to
> > > > > > > the ticket was exactly 35 minutes after the ticket creation! And
> > the
> > > > fix
> > > > > > > was commited less than 24 hours later.
>
> > > > > > I submitted ticket 3291. There is no evidence that anyone else
> > has
> > > > > > ever looked at it.
>
> > > > > > /Joe
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