I find the YAML web site has wonderful, detailed documentation that
very quickly and explicitly explains everything that anyone needs to
know about YAML.  I really enjoyed reading the spec.

/Joe

On Apr 9, 12:06 pm, "Alistair Stead" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Joe,
> Just to save you finding another tools documentation less then useful. The
> YAML website will simply explain how YAML can be used as a configuration
> tool. That site will contain very little help when it comes to your specific
> problems of implementation.
>
> I would suggest that the wiki, snippets, forums, and other developers blogs
> would be a better starting point. There is an abundance of information out
> there... But an individual developer needs to take some responsibility for
> holes in their own knowledge. Rather than berating the developers who have
> invested a large amount of time in producing the symfony project and making
> if freely available, maybe you could read the book and updated documentation
> online.... then maybe after that you will feel better informed?
>
> I only feel the need to comment as I read the developer list so that I can
> better understand the symfony project as it develops through its release but
> your constant bickering is driving me and I'm sure a number of other
> to despair..
>
> This isn't François by the way
>
> On 09/04/2008, Joe Kelsey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Thank you for the reference.  The lack of indexing and other search
> > terms is very frustrating.
>
> > I have only received the printed book last week and am going through
> > it slowly.
>
> > The online documentation is only as good as the indexing can make it.
> > The lack of an index is very frustrating.  I searched for "fixtures"
> > and "fixtures.yml" and only came across the reference in unit test
> > chapter.  I will now go to the yaml web site and read there.
>
> > I am not intentionally trying to be rude.  I simply write facts down.
> > If you insist on taking offense to the simple presentation of facts,
> > then you need to adjust your attitude.  My personal attitude is that I
> > am trying to use a reasonable tool that has some small problems that
> > the developers apparantly cannot see.
>
> > /Joe
>
> > On Apr 9, 9:54 am, "Francois Zaninotto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> > project.com> wrote:
> > > Dear Joe,
>
> > > Did you read pages 358-361 (Chapter 16) of the symfony book? There is a
> > > subsection called 'using linked tables' there, which pretty much
> > explains
> > > the way to reference another record in a fixture file.
>
> > > Now I know what you're going to say: there is no trace of this section
> > in
> > > the index, and the book is very badly written, and your bug is still not
> > > fixed. Perhaps you're wondering if all the people who send posts to the
> > > symfony mailing-list and forum are not fake people, since the framework
> > > simply doesn't work at all. There is no way thousands of people could
> > build
> > > symfony applications with such a lousy product.
>
> > > I'll tell you what: you are right. There is no such thing as the symfony
> > > framework. I write all the posts myself (I have a lot of different
> > > identities).
>
> > > I just do that to make fun of people. They look so funny when they start
> > > reading the fake book, and realize that this framework stuff is just a
> > con.
> > > I know, this is pathetic.
>
> > > When they realize that, people stop trying with symfony and simply
> > switch to
> > > Code Ignitor, which is much better. Perhaps you shoud give it a try?
>
> > > Cheers,
>
> > > François
>
> > > 2008/4/9, Joe Kelsey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> > > > On Apr 5, 12:02 am, Fabien POTENCIER <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > project.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > The bug IS fixed.
>
> > > > The bug is NOT fixed.
>
> > > > > The fixture file takes class names as main keys, not table names.
> > But
> > > > > I'm sure you already know that as it's well described in the symfony
> > > > book.
>
> > > > There is no documentation on fixtures anywhere in the symfony book
> > > > EXCEPT for a small section in the testing chapter which describes
> > > > using fixtures.yml to load arbitrary unit-test data.  At least, there
> > > > is no reference to fixtures.yml in the Index except for the reference
> > > > to unit-test data.  Specifically, I cannot find any references to
> > > > fixtures.yml that specifically describes using names instead of
> > > > indexes for key values.
>
> > > > > If you think there is still a bug, please open a new ticket,
> > describe
> > > > > the problem, attach a patch that fixes the problem with unit tests
> > that
> > > > > prove the patch, and prepend the ticket description with [PATCH].
>
> > > > You can demonstrate the bug by simply installing the sfGuardPlugin in
> > > > a NEW project, and attempt to build a database and load the fixture.
> > > > The load will fail.
>
> > > > > The core team read all tickets as they are created. My first reply
> > to
> > > > > the ticket was exactly 35 minutes after the ticket creation! And the
> > fix
> > > > > was commited less than 24 hours later.
>
> > > > I submitted ticket 3291.  There is no evidence that anyone else has
> > > > ever looked at it.
>
> > > > /Joe
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