hmm.. Actually it was Lukas' argument that got me in for the change.
If we decide for PHP as the template engine it is to be expected that most bundles out there will use it. Once a developer chooses Twig for his projects most of these Bundles will no longer work for him without some extra work. This will probably keep a lot of people actively using Twig which would be a shame. So while there is yet another learning curve for SF2 beginners I think it's only a little tradeoff compared to the alternative. Thumbs up for Twig as the one and only default! /Christian On 22 Sep., 12:51, Stefan Koopmanschap <stefan.koopmansc...@symfony- project.com> wrote: > I think that Twig should be bundled and be the default, but that plain > PHP templates should still be an option. > > I have a personal distaste for template engines and while Twig fixes > most of the problems I have with template engines (like performance), > I still dislike the syntax. However, in most projects, the syntax is > not my problem since there will be other people (designers, frontend > engineers) that handle the templates. > > However, for other projects where I am responsible for the frontend > (like my own private projects) I would like to have the option to > switch to plain PHP, which I like much more. > > As Jordi mentioned, defaulting to Twig will ensure that > lesser-experienced developers will not be able (or at least have a > much harder time) to "break" the MVC concepts. And I think this alone > would be a good reason to switch to Twig as the default. > > But again, the option to switch to plain PHP (or another template > engine, for those that want/need another template engine) should still > exist for the more advanced users. > > Stefan > > On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 10:11 AM, Keri Henare > > > > > > <keri.mailingli...@henare.co.nz> wrote: > > I think that Twig should be bundled but not default. PHP should stay the > > default for templates. > > > Kind regards, > > Keri Henare > > --------------------------------------------------- > > Chief Technical Officer > > Pixel Fusion > > > [e] k...@pixelfusion.co.nz > > [w] pixelfusion.co.nz > > [m] (+64) 021 874 552 > > [p] (+64) 09 550 3084 > > > Zend Certified Engineer > > -http://www.zend.com/en/yellow-pages#show-ClientCandidateID=ZEND013450 > > > PLEASE NOTE: I check my email 3 times per day and will respond at these > > intervals. For anything urgent please ring me. > > --------------------------------------------------- > > > On 22/09/2010, at 8:07 PM, Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote: > > >> On 22.09.2010, at 09:39, Jordi Boggiano wrote: > > >>> And for PHP developers, as I already said learning Twig is really not > >>> much work imo, took me about 10minutes to get everything up and running > >>> when I switched my Sf2 project to Twig. > > >> just in case people arent aware, there is already quite a bit of > >> documentation for twig: > >>http://www.twig-project.org/ > > >> please spend 10 minutes to look at the site before making a decision pro > >> or con .. > > >> regards, > >> Lukas Kahwe Smith > >> m...@pooteeweet.org > > >> -- > >> If you want to report a vulnerability issue on symfony, please send it to > >> security at symfony-project.com > > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >> Groups "symfony developers" group. > >> To post to this group, send email to symfony-devs@googlegroups.com > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> symfony-devs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > >> For more options, visit this group at > >>http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-devs?hl=en > > > -- > > If you want to report a vulnerability issue on symfony, please send it to > > security at symfony-project.com > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups "symfony developers" group. > > To post to this group, send email to symfony-devs@googlegroups.com > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > symfony-devs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-devs?hl=en > > -- > Stefan Koopmanschap > Symfony Community Manager > stefan.koopmansc...@symfony-project.com -- If you want to report a vulnerability issue on symfony, please send it to security at symfony-project.com You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "symfony developers" group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-devs@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-devs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-devs?hl=en
