On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 7:03 PM, Aaron Meurer <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 5:45 PM, Ondřej Čertík <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 3:14 PM, Matthew Brett <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 7:35 PM, Ondřej Čertík <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>>> On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 10:53 PM, Aaron Meurer <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 11:43 PM, Ondřej Čertík <[email protected]> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 10:42 PM, Ondřej Čertík <[email protected]> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 11:20 PM, Aaron Meurer <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> I'm happy to announce that we finally have a release candidate for
>>>>>>>> SymPy 0.7.2.  Go to http://code.google.com/p/sympy/downloads/list to
>>>>>>>> see them.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Please test this, and make sure that everything works.  SymPy 0.7.2
>>>>>>>> adds support for Python 3, and we also have support for PyPy, assuming
>>>>>>>> you are running a recent nightly.   So please test this, make sure the
>>>>>>>> tarball includes everything it should (and nothing it shouldn't), that
>>>>>>>> it installs, etc.  If someone could test the windows installer in
>>>>>>>> particular, that would be great.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So there is some problem with pip:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ondrej@hawk:/tmp$ virtualenv-2.7 xx
>>>>>>> New python executable in xx/bin/python
>>>>>>> cInstalling setuptools............done.
>>>>>>> Installing pip...............done.
>>>>>>> ondrej@hawk:/tmp$ source xx/bin/activate
>>>>>>> (xx)ondrej@hawk:/tmp$ pip install sympy
>>>>>>> Downloading/unpacking sympy
>>>>>>>   Downloading sympy-0.7.2.rc1.python3.tar.gz (5.3Mb): 5.3Mb downloaded
>>>>>>>   Running setup.py egg_info for package sympy
>>>>>>>     Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>>>>>       File "<string>", line 14, in <module>
>>>>>>>       File "/tmp/xx/build/sympy/setup.py", line 36, in <module>
>>>>>>>         import sympy
>>>>>>>       File "sympy/__init__.py", line 27, in <module>
>>>>>>>         raise ImportError("It appears 2to3 has been run on the 
>>>>>>> codebase. Use "
>>>>>>>     ImportError: It appears 2to3 has been run on the codebase. Use
>>>>>>> Python 3 or get the original source code.
>>>>>>>     Complete output from command python setup.py egg_info:
>>>>>>>     Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   File "<string>", line 14, in <module>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   File "/tmp/xx/build/sympy/setup.py", line 36, in <module>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     import sympy
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   File "sympy/__init__.py", line 27, in <module>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     raise ImportError("It appears 2to3 has been run on the codebase. 
>>>>>>> Use "
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ImportError: It appears 2to3 has been run on the codebase. Use Python
>>>>>>> 3 or get the original source code.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------
>>>>>>> Command python setup.py egg_info failed with error code 1 in 
>>>>>>> /tmp/xx/build/sympy
>>>>>>> Storing complete log in /home/ondrej/.pip/pip.log
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This actually is series *right* now, because it causes "pip install
>>>>>>
>>>>>> series -> serious.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ondrej
>>>>>
>>>>> I guess I didn't follow the right naming scheme for the tarball.
>>>>>
>>>>> You see, pip (easy_install too) uses an algorithm that very
>>>>> aggressively searches websites for the most recent version of a
>>>>> package.  It's impossible for me, as a package maintainer to change
>>>>> this algorithm, and the only way for me to prevent it from searching
>>>>> Google Code is to go through all old versions of SymPy on PyPI and
>>>>> remove all references to Google Code.  See
>>>>> http://mail.python.org/pipermail/catalog-sig/2012-June/004518.html for
>>>>> more information.  So what's happening is that pip thinks that the
>>>>> Python 3 0.7.2.rc1 tarball is the latest version of SymPy (for Python
>>>>> 2).
>>>>>
>>>>> So on the one hand, I think we should push for this feature that I
>>>>> requested again, because it's the only way that package maintainers
>>>>> like myself will be truly able to prevent this kind of issue.  Namely,
>>>>> there should be a flag in PyPI that package maintainers can check that
>>>>> would tell pip/easy_install to only install packages from PyPI, and
>>>>> nowhere else.
>>>>>
>>>>> On the other hand, for the here and now, we should figure out how to
>>>>> name the tarballs so that pip-2 installs the Python 2 tarball and
>>>>> pip-3 installs the Python 3 tarball.  We probably should also rename
>>>>> the release candidate tarballs to "trick" pip into not installing them
>>>>> in general.
>>>>>
>>>>> And by the way, SymPy wouldn't be the first package that isn't pip
>>>>> installable.  Neither Pyglet nor gmpy can be installed by pip, for
>>>>> exactly the same reason.  And I've only really ever tried installing
>>>>> perhaps a couple dozen packages with pip.  My guess is that there are
>>>>> tens if not hundreds of packages with this very same issue.
>>>>
>>>> So this looks like that pip is seriously broken... Don't worry about this 
>>>> then.
>>>> Let's release and then worry about this.
>>>
>>> Wasn't this predictable though?  Hence my previous suggestion to try
>>
>> Not for me. :)
>
> I was afraid it might happen, but I thought that there should at least
> be a way to name the packages so that pip installs the right one in
> Python 2 or Python 3.  In fact, I still do not know for sure that this
> is indeed not possible, so I would like to investigate this option
> further before giving up on it.
>
> I did know that pip would be installing the release candidates, but
> there's nothing I can do about that, except rename the tarballs to
> trick it.

I released two beta version of new numpy:

http://sourceforge.net/projects/numpy/files/NumPy/1.7.0b2/
http://sourceforge.net/projects/numpy/files/NumPy/1.7.0b1/

But pip is still installing the latest release:

(xx)ondrej@hawk:/tmp$ pip install numpy
Downloading/unpacking numpy
  Downloading numpy-1.6.2.zip (2.9Mb): 745Kb downloaded

So maybe there is some way to force pip do the right thing?

Ondrej

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