On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 11:25 AM, Aaron Meurer <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 8:37 AM, Ondřej Čertík <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 7:03 PM, Aaron Meurer <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 5:45 PM, Ondřej Čertík <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 3:14 PM, Matthew Brett <[email protected]> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 7:35 PM, Ondřej Čertík <[email protected]> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 10:53 PM, Aaron Meurer <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 11:43 PM, Ondřej Čertík 
>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 10:42 PM, Ondřej Čertík 
>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 11:20 PM, Aaron Meurer <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> I'm happy to announce that we finally have a release candidate for
>>>>>>>>>> SymPy 0.7.2.  Go to http://code.google.com/p/sympy/downloads/list to
>>>>>>>>>> see them.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Please test this, and make sure that everything works.  SymPy 0.7.2
>>>>>>>>>> adds support for Python 3, and we also have support for PyPy, 
>>>>>>>>>> assuming
>>>>>>>>>> you are running a recent nightly.   So please test this, make sure 
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> tarball includes everything it should (and nothing it shouldn't), 
>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>> it installs, etc.  If someone could test the windows installer in
>>>>>>>>>> particular, that would be great.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So there is some problem with pip:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ondrej@hawk:/tmp$ virtualenv-2.7 xx
>>>>>>>>> New python executable in xx/bin/python
>>>>>>>>> cInstalling setuptools............done.
>>>>>>>>> Installing pip...............done.
>>>>>>>>> ondrej@hawk:/tmp$ source xx/bin/activate
>>>>>>>>> (xx)ondrej@hawk:/tmp$ pip install sympy
>>>>>>>>> Downloading/unpacking sympy
>>>>>>>>>   Downloading sympy-0.7.2.rc1.python3.tar.gz (5.3Mb): 5.3Mb downloaded
>>>>>>>>>   Running setup.py egg_info for package sympy
>>>>>>>>>     Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>>>>>>>       File "<string>", line 14, in <module>
>>>>>>>>>       File "/tmp/xx/build/sympy/setup.py", line 36, in <module>
>>>>>>>>>         import sympy
>>>>>>>>>       File "sympy/__init__.py", line 27, in <module>
>>>>>>>>>         raise ImportError("It appears 2to3 has been run on the 
>>>>>>>>> codebase. Use "
>>>>>>>>>     ImportError: It appears 2to3 has been run on the codebase. Use
>>>>>>>>> Python 3 or get the original source code.
>>>>>>>>>     Complete output from command python setup.py egg_info:
>>>>>>>>>     Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   File "<string>", line 14, in <module>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   File "/tmp/xx/build/sympy/setup.py", line 36, in <module>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     import sympy
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   File "sympy/__init__.py", line 27, in <module>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     raise ImportError("It appears 2to3 has been run on the codebase. 
>>>>>>>>> Use "
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ImportError: It appears 2to3 has been run on the codebase. Use Python
>>>>>>>>> 3 or get the original source code.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>> Command python setup.py egg_info failed with error code 1 in 
>>>>>>>>> /tmp/xx/build/sympy
>>>>>>>>> Storing complete log in /home/ondrej/.pip/pip.log
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This actually is series *right* now, because it causes "pip install
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> series -> serious.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ondrej
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I guess I didn't follow the right naming scheme for the tarball.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You see, pip (easy_install too) uses an algorithm that very
>>>>>>> aggressively searches websites for the most recent version of a
>>>>>>> package.  It's impossible for me, as a package maintainer to change
>>>>>>> this algorithm, and the only way for me to prevent it from searching
>>>>>>> Google Code is to go through all old versions of SymPy on PyPI and
>>>>>>> remove all references to Google Code.  See
>>>>>>> http://mail.python.org/pipermail/catalog-sig/2012-June/004518.html for
>>>>>>> more information.  So what's happening is that pip thinks that the
>>>>>>> Python 3 0.7.2.rc1 tarball is the latest version of SymPy (for Python
>>>>>>> 2).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So on the one hand, I think we should push for this feature that I
>>>>>>> requested again, because it's the only way that package maintainers
>>>>>>> like myself will be truly able to prevent this kind of issue.  Namely,
>>>>>>> there should be a flag in PyPI that package maintainers can check that
>>>>>>> would tell pip/easy_install to only install packages from PyPI, and
>>>>>>> nowhere else.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On the other hand, for the here and now, we should figure out how to
>>>>>>> name the tarballs so that pip-2 installs the Python 2 tarball and
>>>>>>> pip-3 installs the Python 3 tarball.  We probably should also rename
>>>>>>> the release candidate tarballs to "trick" pip into not installing them
>>>>>>> in general.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And by the way, SymPy wouldn't be the first package that isn't pip
>>>>>>> installable.  Neither Pyglet nor gmpy can be installed by pip, for
>>>>>>> exactly the same reason.  And I've only really ever tried installing
>>>>>>> perhaps a couple dozen packages with pip.  My guess is that there are
>>>>>>> tens if not hundreds of packages with this very same issue.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So this looks like that pip is seriously broken... Don't worry about 
>>>>>> this then.
>>>>>> Let's release and then worry about this.
>>>>>
>>>>> Wasn't this predictable though?  Hence my previous suggestion to try
>>>>
>>>> Not for me. :)
>>>
>>> I was afraid it might happen, but I thought that there should at least
>>> be a way to name the packages so that pip installs the right one in
>>> Python 2 or Python 3.  In fact, I still do not know for sure that this
>>> is indeed not possible, so I would like to investigate this option
>>> further before giving up on it.
>>>
>>> I did know that pip would be installing the release candidates, but
>>> there's nothing I can do about that, except rename the tarballs to
>>> trick it.
>>
>> I released two beta version of new numpy:
>>
>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/numpy/files/NumPy/1.7.0b2/
>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/numpy/files/NumPy/1.7.0b1/
>>
>> But pip is still installing the latest release:
>
> I guess pip doesn't search that site. If you do "pip install numpy
> --log log" (e.g., in a virtualenv), the log will show you  exactly
> where it looks for tarballs.  In short, it crawls all websites
> referenced in PyPI, including in old versions.

For SymPy, it searches all bunch of things, until it finds
the wrong binary. Unfortunately I don't now what to do with this.

Ondrej

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