Sorry if i am being imprecise, but actually i cant describe it better than 
in my opening post. I want X, Y and Phi in terms of everything else.

Maybe i was wrong in assuming that i could simply pass sympy the system of 
equations and it would deliver the solutions in a form that i could then 
use for further processing (auto diff), but the intermediate expression you 
give for cosphi indicates that there is a much more compact representation 
of the solution in matrix notations. I understand that sympy only got some 
(non-matrix) equations, and therefore couldn't introduce matrix operations 
by itself.

But maybe there is some approach i am missing, which would help sympy to 
use matrix operations in the solution?








On Wednesday, June 15, 2016 at 7:06:17 PM UTC+2, Oscar wrote:
>
> On 14 June 2016 at 20:30,  <[email protected] <javascript:>> wrote: 
> > I had the same idea earlier, but i dropped it because my intuition was, 
> that 
> > three quadratic equations are worse than three linear and one quadratic 
> > equation :-) 
> > 
> > Since you brought this approach up again, i tried it now, but sympy does 
> not 
> > seem to find a solution. 
> > 
> > You can check out my code here: http://pastebin.com/famnqkLC 
> > 
> > You wrote you expected sympy to find a solution for numeric 
> coefficients, 
> > but i need a symbolic solution because i want to proceed further (by 
> > differentiating with respect so some of the parameters for 
> optimization), 
> > and don't want a sympy.solve step in each optimization step. 
>
> You should perhaps explain more clearly what you do want then. You 
> want <X> in terms of <Y> but what are X and Y? 
>
> > Any idea why my original approach "explodes" in regards of the resulting 
> > expressions? 
>
> Given your three linear equations you can solve them to get x, y, and 
> cosphi all in terms of sinphi. Then you have that cosphi is: 
>
> (-(Cux*Cvy - Cuy*Cvx)*(Awx*Cvz*sinphi - Awy*Cuz*sinphi + Cwz) + 
> (Cux*Cvz - Cuz*Cvx)*(Avx*Cvy*sinphi - Avy*Cuy*sinphi + Cwy) - (Cuy*Cvz 
> - Cuz*Cvy)*(Aux*Cvx*sinphi - Auy*Cux*sinphi + Cwx))/(Cux*Cvy*(Awx*Cuz 
> + Awy*Cvz) - Cux*Cvz*(Avx*Cuy + Avy*Cvy) - Cuy*Cvx*(Awx*Cuz + Awy*Cvz) 
> + Cuy*Cvz*(Aux*Cux + Auy*Cvx) + Cuz*Cvx*(Avx*Cuy + Avy*Cvy) - 
> Cuz*Cvy*(Aux*Cux + Auy*Cvx)) 
>
> Which you can substitute for cosphi in cosphi**2+sinphi**2-1 to get a 
> quadratic in only sinphi. 
>
> The explosion comes from expanding the cosphi expression (and then 
> squaring!). You have 12 different symbols (excluding sinphi) and all 
> the cross-multiplications gives a combinatoric explosion of terms that 
> aren't easy to factor. 
>
> I guess what you want to do is rearrange the cosphi expression into 
> the form a*sinphi + b but without expanding a and b. 
>
> -- 
> Oscar 
>

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