Youth soccer is fine when it serves as one of many sports a youngster
learns. Unfortunately, many soccer organizers take the view that youth
soccer is a 24/7 sport twelve months a year. When that happens, our sport
does lose some potential stars.

  Ed Koch


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From: Oleg Shpyrko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Date: Monday, November 12, 2001 1:07 PM
Subject: Re: Re: t-and-f: marathon qualifiers


>I am constantly surprised how soccer "pulling away talent" theory is
>mentioned much more often than, say, soaring obesity levels among
>teenagers. Actually, in view of how inactive US kids are nowadays,
>I would view popularity of soccer as a huge positive factor - not
>a negative one. It's about the only sport popular at high school
>level that develops aerobic capacity - unlike basketball, baseball or
>football - which are more "sprint for 4 seconds, walk or stand around
>for the next 10 minutes" kind of sports.
>
>What is the common link between Aouita, Khannouchi, Vigueras, Larson,
>Kagwe, Thugwane, Paul Evans, ElGuerrouj - and throw in any top
>portuguese, spanish, italian, mexican or brazilian runners?
>
>They all started out as soccer players - developed speed and aerobic
>base an young age, then switched to running. Didn't seem to hurt them.
>
>If basketball didn't "steal" Paul Tergat, swimming didn't "steal" Alan Webb
>and triathlons didn't "steal" Lance Armstrong, do we really believe that
>soccer is "stealing" the next Bill Rodgers or Frank Shorter?
>
>Oleg.
>
>
>
>> Two other contributing factors that have been mentioned before:
>>
>> 1. Other sports (soccer, triathlon) pulling away more potential distance
runners they did twenty years ago; and
>>
>> 2. The USA birth rate bottomed out in the mid-1970's meaning there are
fewer adults in their mid to late twenties these days. Fortunately, the
birth rate has improved since then which may be a contributing factor to
recent improvements in high school performances in our sport.
>>
>> Ed Koch
>>
>>
>> Original Message:
>> -----------------
>> From: alan tobin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2001 23:20:53 +0000
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: Re: t-and-f: marathon qualifiers
>>
>>
>> The problem is really quite simple, and it is 3-fold:
>>
>> 1. The US "elite" runners are not running nearly as hard/long as they
were
>> 20-30 years ago. This is due in part to high school and college coaches
>> adopting the high quality/low quantity approach. Three runners, three
vast
>> improvements in mileage, three of the best US marathoners we have had
>> recently: Joe Lemay drops a 2:13 after upping to 140-150, David Morris
drops
>> a 2:09 after going to Japan and uppping to 150ish, Josh Cox qualifies for
>> 2000 Trials after upping to 100+ then drops to 2:13 after upping even
>> further to the 130-150 range. 120 a week not working? Try 140. That not
>> working? Try 160. Fact is there were more US "elite" runners 20-30 years
ago
>> running upwards of 150 or more a week.
>>
>> 2. US "elites" wait too long to try the marathon. Todd Williams best
>> marathon days were back in '95-'96. We have three runners capable of sub
>> 2:10-2:11, but they are busy running 10ks on the track. The best US
runners
>> are too busy running 5ks and 10ks to worry about the marathons. 20-30
years
>> ago a lot of the best US marathoners could hold their own on the track
and
>> the not-so-speedy made up the 2nd tier running 2:15s. Today, for the most
>> part, the not-so-speedy runners make up the 1st tier.
>>
>> 3. Too much other stuff to worry about. Forget about the few examples of
>> runners running 2:10 while working 50 hours a week. If you want to give
>> yourself the best chance to excel in running then you can't be worn out
from
>> working 50 hours a week. Working 20-30 hours a week gives you a little
cash
>> plus more than enough time to put in the twice daily 10 mile runs that
you
>> need. A lot of the best college runners quit running seriously after
college
>> so they can pursue a job related to their degree.
>>
>>
>> All of these problems can be solved. The developmental groups (Hansons,
>> Brownstone, Fila, ect) have started the ball rolling. Now a young runner
has
>> somewhere to go. Some, like Brownstone, have performance levels with
varying
>> perks. It's all a matter of finding young people willing to do whatever
it
>> takes, run farther and faster, and do the things necessary to succeed.
Once
>> that happens then US distance running will be fine.
>>
>> Alan
>> http://www.geocities.com/runningart2004
>>
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