Alan, I played "Varsity Football and Basketball!" Intramural basketball and touch or flag football do not count!
Gerald -----Original Message----- From: alan tobin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 4:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Re: t-and-f: marathon qualifiers I used to play basketball for an hour or more after an hour run in high school. Believe me, basketball is nothing in terms of conditioning. Football? Does intramural flag football count? In terms of conditioning football is cake. In football you do sprint for 4 seconds and walk/stand around for 30secs or whenever the next play starts. Now, when you start banging heads in football that is when the distance runner gets killed...literally. In both playground basketball and intramural football our team of distance runners would barely break a sweat compared to the competition. Come on now. Alan http://www.geocities.com/runningart2004 >From: "Gerald Woodward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: "Gerald Woodward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "Richard McCann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Oleg Shpyrko" ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >CC: "T&FMail List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: Re: t-and-f: marathon qualifiers >Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 00:34:29 -0800 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Received: from [128.223.142.13] by hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id >MHotMailBDB97D7C00CC4004326580DF8E0D871B0; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 12:35:38 -0800 >Received: (from majordom@localhost)by darkwing.uoregon.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) >id fACKXdc11292for t-and-f-outgoing; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 12:33:39 -0800 (PST) >Received: from albatross.prod.itd.earthlink.net >(albatross.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.120])by darkwing.uoregon.edu >(8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fACKXbt11269for ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 12:33:37 -0800 (PST) >Received: from pool0583.cvx9-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net ([209.178.178.73] >helo=d0t6s4)by albatross.prod.itd.earthlink.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1)id >163Nlu-0005iu-00; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 12:33:35 -0800 >From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon, 12 Nov 2001 12:36:19 -0800 >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >X-Priority: 3 (Normal) >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) >In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Importance: Normal >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 >Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Precedence: bulk > >Richard, > >Football and basketball are not sprint for 4 seconds and stand around for >10 >minutes sports! I would like to see how many runners can play football or >basketball without going through the additional conditioning drills >required >to play those sports! I can guarantee you you that they would be on the >sidelines pucking out their guts after the first two-a-day drills! > >I was a track man who also played football. In track I ran 100 yards (9.6 >sec.), 220 yards (21.3 sec.), 440 yards (48.4), 880 yards (1:57.9). I >played football and basketball in high school along with track and in >college concentrated on track and football only. I could not have played >football on my track training only as I know from experience. I ran summer >track (440/880 training) and then went into football camp. The only thing >that my training prepared me for was the mandatory 2:30 minutes 880 yard >run >the first day of training camp! > >And by the way, I was 6'2 1/2" tall and 206 pounds! > >Gerald > >-----Original Message----- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Richard McCann >Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 11:35 AM >To: Oleg Shpyrko >Cc: T&FMail List >Subject: Re: Re: t-and-f: marathon qualifiers > > >At 01:06 PM 11/12/2001 -0500, Oleg Shpyrko wrote.. > >I am constantly surprised how soccer "pulling away talent" theory is > >mentioned much more often than, say, soaring obesity levels among > >teenagers. > >The population of elite distance runners almost never will produce obese >kids. Tendency toward obesity is linked in large part to body type. I >don't see many 6-4/250 elite distance runners--they tend to play left >tackle. > > >Actually, in view of how inactive US kids are nowadays, > >I would view popularity of soccer as a huge positive factor - not > >a negative one. It's about the only sport popular at high school > >level that develops aerobic capacity - unlike basketball, baseball or > >football - which are more "sprint for 4 seconds, walk or stand around > >for the next 10 minutes" kind of sports. > > > >What is the common link between Aouita, Khannouchi, Vigueras, Larson, > >Kagwe, Thugwane, Paul Evans, ElGuerrouj - and throw in any top > >portuguese, spanish, italian, mexican or brazilian runners? > > > >They all started out as soccer players - developed speed and aerobic > >base an young age, then switched to running. Didn't seem to hurt them. > >There are now many examples of soccer players (which is usually played in >the fall in the US) who would have run cross country in the US. Before the >80s, those folks would have run cross country because they didn't have >another athletic outlet. > > > >If basketball didn't "steal" Paul Tergat, swimming didn't "steal" Alan >Webb > >and triathlons didn't "steal" Lance Armstrong, do we really believe that > >soccer is "stealing" the next Bill Rodgers or Frank Shorter? > >Yes. We don't know how many Alan Webb's are playing midfielder >instead. We would not have asked this question in 1975, if not >later. Unlike other nations, soccer is a recent influence that was not >there before. > >RMc > > > > >Richard McCann > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp
