Hi all, I find the current proposals for "second_hand" not well describing and confusing (different on different Wiki pages).
Any type of shop may sell second_hand goods, so it seems to be an additional property. The shop's most important property is WHAT IT SELLS, and whether it is second hand is secondary detail. My basic idea is: second_hand=yes This cannot cover the situations when the shop sells ONLY second hand, or BOTH new and second hand. I need ideas for that, because I find this difference important. Current status research ----------------------- http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:shop shop=second_hand "A shop buying and selling used clothes and other things." ---> this mixes any products together, not good. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dsecond_hand Recommends using "shop=books" and "shop=clothes" instead, which is right, but then the important fact of "second hand" is lost. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:books Recommends using "shop=second_hand" and "second_hand=books", but then all those book shops are not found anymore in book searches, unless book searches are improved to an unnecessary complexity. Also gone from the map when shop=second_hand is not marked. This puts priority on second_hand and reduces the priority of WHAT is sold. I don't think people searches that way! ("Give me anything used!") Summary ------- Shops should be primarily tagged by what they sell. Second hand should be added as an additional property of the shop. This could keep second hand book, clothes, computer, etc "on the map" when searching such places, and users can get "second hand" info for special views or when requesting more details. Problem ------- Values: no = don't add second_hand tag yes = second_hand=yes both = ??? problem ??? This is similar to female=yes, male=yes, where one excludes the other unless also specified. But a similar method cannot be applied here I think....? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:female I'll make a wiki page based on feedback. Many thanks, Ferenc Veres [kempelen] http://www.openstreetmap.hu _______________________________________________ Tagging mailing list [email protected] http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
