2011/11/5 Ferenc Veres <[email protected]>: > > > 2011.11.04. 11:59 keltezéssel, Martin Koppenhoefer írta: >>> Any type of shop may sell second_hand goods, so it seems to be an >>> additional property. The shop's most important property is WHAT IT >>> SELLS, and whether it is second hand is secondary detail. >>> >>> My basic idea is: >>> second_hand=yes >> >> >> >> this will force all maps that show book shops or shops for clothing to >> check for this key. > > Why? It it still a book shop or clothes shop primarily. > I agree it does not matter since they still sell clothes/furniture/.. even if it's second hand.
>> Basically not all products are sold second_hand, >> but there is quite some). And there is also shops that sell both: >> second_hand and new stuff (think of cars). So instead of >> second_hand=yes/no I'd prefer something like >> second_hand=only/additionally (maybe even second_hand=few/mostly). >> >> The problem is similar as with rental: some do only rent, others do >> both, some don't rent. > > Yes, this was my main concern about wording of the tag. I think "yes" > value is much easier to remember than "only", I really would like to > hear other native English speakers about the other value: > > "additionally" is too complicated, while it could be simply tagged > > could be > > second_hand=too > or > second_hand=also > or > second_hand=both > > (however it's not easy on a GUI either, it needs a dropdown) > > I think it would be good with two values. only and both, to make a distinction between purly second hand shops and second hand shops that also sells new items. (maybee second_hand=yes could subbstitute only (I belive that is the most common. atleast where I'm from) >> You could have keys for all products that are sold, e.g. >> shop=second_hand (or bicycle/books/...), where we recommend to use >> second_hand if they do not sell new products and the other values if >> they also sell second hand stuff. >> >> plus >> second_hand:clothes=only/additionally >> second_hand:furniture= >> second_hand:cars= >> second_hand:vinyl_records= > > I'd prefer simple wording and simple tagging. Seems you find > "second_hand" more important than what is sold. This tagging would kill > rendering and search-result of all shops that sell second_hand stuff > when searched by product. And would require extra complexity to search > it, just because it's second_hand, while second_hand shops are at least > as common and loved by customers than normal shops. > > Thank you, > Ferenc > > > -- > Ferenc Veres > http://www.wpsnet.com > > To send GPG encrypted message please use this key > http://lion.xaraya.hu/images/ferenc_veres_gpg.txt > and a program like this: http://www.gpg4win.org/ > > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > _______________________________________________ Tagging mailing list [email protected] http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
