On 29. nov. 2013 09:15, Martin Vonwald wrote:
Hi!

2013/11/28 Egil Hjelmeland <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>

    I still do not think man_made=surveillance is perfect. But I do
    not have huge problems with it as long as it is documented.


If something is properly documented in OSM it is a near to perfection as it will ever get ;-)

I also think that surveillance does make sense in this context.


    But if I kindly refer you to
    http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Dsurveillance ,
    you will see that it talk about Big Brother, not about webcams. It
    does not even define how to link to a image on internet.


Have a look at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Key:Surveillance

man_made=surveillance
surveillance=webcam
contact:webcam=<url>

Seems fine to me.

    So when only a few hundred webcams displaying landscape are mapped
    in the world, I would say there is a real problem that people do
    not know how to map them.


Or that not a lot are interested in tagging them. Everyone has different interests - I don't think I would ever map a webcam. But I do map fire hydrants... sometimes ;-)


Best regards,
Martin


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OK, webcam is surveillance then.

I am not sure about surveillance=webcam, current values are indoor|outdoor|public, which I think is orthogonal to being a webcam.

contact:webcam=<url> is fine, that tell we have a webcam. Do we really need anything more to tell its a webcam?

Taginfo lists 171 contact:webcam , only 53 url:webcam, so contact:webcam has a lead.

surveillance:zone=weather|traffic|scenic as mentioned elsewhere in the thread seem to me like a good idea.

Should it be allowed with a list of surveillance:zone values, like surveillance:zone=scenic;town or surveillance:zone=scenic;snow ?


So my revised suggestion to tag a webcam public on internet is


man_made=surveillance
surveillance= indoor|outdoor|public *
surveillance:type=camera *
surveillance:zone=weather|traffic|scenic *

contact:webcam=<url>

name=*
operator=*
description=*
camera:direction= compass degrees *
camera:angle = horizontal angle of view  *

* means optional


In order to handle the http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/Extended_tags_for_Key:Surveillance#more_than_one_camera_mouted_on_a_pole case I suggest make each camera as a relation, the only member is the location node. The location node could be a man_made=mast.

The relation could be tagged as type=surveillance, in combination with the tags mentioned above.



-- Egil

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