+10 It is frustrating and I only rarely change the wiki.
I always try to be polite and get into contact but only once. If there is no real reaction and only more pages are changed or directly changed after the revert, I would revert them all immediately as it is a problem if wrong/undiscussed changes are spread. cu fly Am 21.10.2014 18:36, schrieb Pee Wee: > Well... here's my experience with user Ulamm. He sure has taken away > part of the fun it was contributing to this project. > > I've noticed he made some changes to the use_sidepath > <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:bicycle%3Duse_sidepath> wiki. I > asked him in a private mail for the reason of the changes since they did > not make sense to me nor was I aware of some proposal or a discussion on > the tagging mailinglist. His changes were reverted by Mateusz but Ulamm > changed the wiki almost instantly. Ulamm could not (and still can not) > give me any reference to a discussion or whatever that would justify the > changes he made. In the private mail it was very clear to me that Ulamm > wanted to discuss with me why his change was good for OSM. I instead > wanted to make clear to him that he should get consensus first and after > that change the wiki. > For this reason I decided to continue on the TALK page instead of > private mail. You can read that in Talk > <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Tag:bicycle%3Duse_sidepath>page > from "bicycle=yes everywhere" > > Apart from that fact that there is no consensus on the change he made I > also pointed him to the wiki page on "tag for routing/Access > restrictions > <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_tags_for_routing/Access-Restrictions>" > with which his change conflicts. He now states that it does not > conflict because those the road types under discussion are excluded from > this wiki. That was new to me so I was surprised. I found out that this > wiki was also changed by Ulamm by adding a paragraph by the name of > "Special feature: Roadside cycletracks". So Ulamm seems to change one > wiki and justifies with another wiki he has just changed. > > My impression is that he does not want to reach consensus but just > changes wiki pages to his liking. IMHO this is a very bad development > undermining the wiki pages and the way we should should reach agreement > in OSM. > > I am wondering what your opinion is on this. > > Cheers PeeWee32 > > PS : > History on use_sidepath wiki > <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:bicycle%3Duse_sidepath&action=history> > History Access page > <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=OSM_tags_for_routing/Access-Restrictions&action=history> > > > > > > 2014-10-04 20:04 GMT+02:00 715371 <osmu715...@gmx.de > <mailto:osmu715...@gmx.de>>: > > Hi, > > I want to mention that user ulamm is not just doing vandalism on the > osm-db, but also on the wiki. > > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key%3Aaccess&diff=1076542&oldid=1076413 > > He is changing the information for Germany, where this is not true so > far as I know. > > Now he is claiming this in discussions. > > Related to sidewalk-tagging he is doing the same: modify and than claim > his proposal was right. > > You can also find suspicious modifications on , , ,  and > . > > Please bann him. > > Cheers, > Tobias > >  > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag%3Ahighway%3Dcycleway&diff=1078542&oldid=1056509 >  https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Tag:highway%3Dcycleway >  > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Template:De:Description:Cycleway:Track >  > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Attributierung_von_Stra%C3%9Fen_in_Deutschland >  > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Bicycle/Radverkehrsanlagen_kartieren _______________________________________________ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging