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Il giorno 17 apr 2016, alle ore 17:33, ael <law_ence....@ntlworld.com> ha scritto: >> In en_US, alley is generally a road where you can drive, but which is so > > Here British usage is different. You can seldom drive on a alley. It > may be the historical root is the same: in the days of narrow > horse-drawn vehicles, maybe an alley would allow passage and that was > the historical meaning. Most alleys in the UK will have bollards or such > to prevent anything beyond bicycles. However they are typically wider > than normal paths. You see why we need a clear definition? From your > description, I can't see why highway=service with a width tag would not > cover a US alley. in Italy there are many alleys in historical village and urban centers, sometimes they are footways (legally) but often they are just narrow streets, so narrow that a car often won't pass, but a motorcycle can take it. I bet this situation is not so rare in other countries with a significant amount of 2-wheeled traffic and old urban structures (and not so much regulation). I believe that this kind of way is significantly different from a residential street and should have its own tag (also because it makes using the data for rendering and routing much easier). I'm using (and I know others do as well) highway=service with service=alley for these. They are not the typical service way, because legally they are roads, often the only road to access the buildings along it. If there is maxwidth signposted I obviously add a maxwidth tag as well, but often there isn't (ideally I could measure the narrowest part myself and add this as width, but I typically don't do it, and width is not the only criterion, sharp bends and corners also come into play). cheers, Martin _______________________________________________ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging