On 18 September 2017 at 14:55, Kevin Kenny <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 12:30 AM, Dave Swarthout <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> I'm trying to tag some stocked fishing ponds that reside on a military >> reservation in Alaska, Fort Greely. The ponds are stocked by the >> Alaska Department of Fish & Game but require a special permit for access. >> This is from the Department of Fish & Game website: >> >> These lakes are on military land. A permit is required to legally access >> these lakes. For Army land a Recreational Access Permit (RAP) is required. >> >> access=permissive isn't quite right nor is access=private. >> > > > > For me, and apparently for you, there's a big difference between 'this > land is private', and 'access to this land requires certain formalities to > be complied with, but permission is ordinarily granted.' But i appear to be > imagining that the difference is important, since nobody else on the planet > sees it. > You can count me in there as well, 'cause I've got a similar'ish sort of question, thanks gents :-) Just off the Queensland coast, there are a number of large, sand islands, which are reached by ferry (in one case, by bridge) & are very popular tourist destinations. eg Fraser Island: http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=8/-25.322/152.732 These islands are controlled by Qld National Parks & anybody is allowed to visit them, but to drive on the island, either on the beach or inland tracks, you must have a vehicle permit, which can be simply bought either online, or from various retailers - newsagents, service stations etc. The main beaches on each of these islands are also the main roads to travel around the island, & are, in fact, designated public roads, where normal speed limits, licensing requirements, alcohol limits etc all apply, & are enforced by Police. So how should they be marked? They're open to the general public until National Parks says no, so that's permissive? But you need a permit, so does that make them private? Maybe they should be marked as toll=yes, although there's no toll-booth where you can pay? & then how do you mark the entire Island, or just the main beach, as needing a permit? Marked tracks can be tagged easily enough, but the beach is just a beach! Looking forward to working something out! :-) Thanks Graeme
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