A few comments: * I don't think this should "obsolete" the highway=give_way nodes completely. For simple cases with oneway=yes roads the highway=give_way node on the way is the easiest way to map them. Also for any "four-way give way" situation, tagging the intersection node is clear and unambigious.
* I'm not sure if putting the different traffic types into the relation type key is the right place. It might be better to put that into an applies_to key? That way you can list multiple, either as applies_to=caravan;hgv;bus or applies_to:bus=yes applies_to:hgv=yes The separate key version has the advantage that it would also allow conditions: applies_to:hgv=no applies_to:hgv:conditional=yes@(Mo-Fr) * instead of day_on, day-off, hour_on, and hour_off, it might be better to use an operating_hours key with the same format as opening_hours for shops * overwritten_by might be better as a member instead (or in addition) of a key. Especially for dual carriage way intersections (mapped as # ) the traffic_signal nodes are usually at the stop line on the approach instead of at the intersecting nodes (if you tag the 4 intersecting nodes, then a route through the intersection would pass 2 or 3 highway=traffig_signal nodes, while if it is tagged only on the approaches [which are all oneways] the route correctly only goes through a single one). * the value curb value for the road_markings key should probably be kerb to match the barrier=kerb tag and to match UK English usage. * in addition to the road_sign members, it would be good to also allow road_marking members (which would be a node on a from way, or a way with an intersecting node with the from way, tagged with road_marking=x, or barrier=kerb) * the road_sign and road_marking members and keys should have the same name Cheers, Thorsten > -----Original Message----- > From: Ruben Kelevra <ru...@vfn-nrw.de> > Sent: Friday, 11 May 2018 07:52 > To: tagging@openstreetmap.org > Subject: Re: [Tagging] complete tagging of all 'right of way'-cases > FOLLOWUP > > Hey guys, > > If the first one was TL;DR ... I start with working on this > proposal to implement a give_way as a relation. This might be one > of many to this topic and I'll follow up every different one when I > start working on them. > > > I thought some hours about this old proposal[1] and decided to > update[2] it. > > It now includes the ability to tag the > * used sign (directly at the intersection) > * road markings, like a curb or a dotted or solid line > * main operational function of this intersection, like a traffic > light. > > The last one is necessary because we got intersection with stop and > yield signs here, which are located at the traffic lights. So if > the traffic lights are off (in the night or just non-operational) > the signs located at the traffic lights are applied. > > When the traffic lights are shut of every night, we can add that > information to the node at the via tag, to disable the traffic > light tag in those time periods for the routers. Then the give_way- > or stop-relations come into action. > > It now also includes lists of cases where it should be used and > cases where it shouldn't. Explicitly changing the recommendation to > NOT use it on roundabout & removing the example for it). > > It's also recommending the simple solutions for a priority-to-the- > right (not yet written) and the all-way_stop. > > If the mapper wants to map more details, like the curbs, signs, > hour_on/off or the class of vehicles where this applies, we have to > go the relation way and create up to 4 relations to one > intersection - I just don't see a simpler way with the same > flexibility. > > > [1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relations/Proposed/Give_way > [2] https://bit.ly/2IrMh3g (just a shorted link to a diff) > > As always: Feel free to fix logic and language issues in the > proposal - I'm not a native speaker, there might be many. > > I hope for more feedback on this from you, guys. > > > Best regards > > Ruben > > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging _______________________________________________ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
