From: Simon Poole <si...@poole.ch> 
Sent: Tuesday, 12 June 2018 01:44
To: tagging@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Tagging] I can't support transit:lanes

 

 

You are seriously telling me that if you have two ways that share a node, you 
are unable to figure out what that node is without having it explicitly listed 
as a totally redundant member of the relation?

No, we are all quite capable of figuring that out. The issue is having to 
hardwire semantics for one tag out of 1000s and while there are a lots of 
special cases, mainly when reversing ways, this would be a first for splitting 
(and merging likely too).   

Simon




 

Talking about two different things here.

 

You are talking about transition tags on ways. Fine. As long as editors provide 
an easy way to create, see and change transition information in relations 
without having to manually create these relations, there is no need for 
transition tags on ways. Their whole purpose was to make possible for mappers 
to tag this without going crazy (which they are going to if you disallow the 
tags on the ways without providing real editor support that hides away the 
complexity of the relations).

 

 

Bryan says he is unable to handle a type=transition relation with only a from 
and to way as member, without a via node member.

 

 

I’m saying that different from turn restrictions, transitions can’t have ways 
as vias or multiple vias. So the rule is simply: for a transition relation to 
be valid, the from and to way need to have single node that’s shared between 
them. That node is always the via node. There is no need to explicitly specify 
it in the relation. It’s already given by the from and to ways.

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