To my knowledge the maximum current can be quite different and also the system: Three-phase electric power vs. single-phase circuit.
I would guess the range for a single household could go from about 2.500W to about 25.000W. > Gesendet: Freitag, 31. August 2018 um 12:40 Uhr > Von: seirra <[email protected]> > An: [email protected] > Betreff: Re: [Tagging] Tagging suggestions for electricity > > here anyway, the networks are more than happy to show an area map and > generally they don't change. as the resident can choose just about any > of the energy companies however, that would take a bit of asking around. > i've never tried asking companies so perhaps they would give the data > out, otherwise it would have to be surveys. voltage and current is > usually country wide or in a rather close range? (imagine the difficulty > supplying electrical products to consumers otherwise). i'm a little less > sure about earthing systems. > > > On 08/31/18 10:23, [email protected] wrote: > > I'm asking myself, how is all the (quite specific) data verifiable on the > > ground? Furthermore, don't you need expert knowledge for some things > > mentioned, eg. earthing system, but also the more straight forward things > > like voltages and especially currents - who is able to identify the correct > > fuses for that? > > > > Why do you want to tag these properties? To my opinion, no one needs to > > justify tags regarding to usefulness, I'm just curios. > > > >> Gesendet: Freitag, 31. August 2018 um 10:17 Uhr > >> Von: seirra <[email protected]> > >> An: [email protected] > >> Betreff: Re: [Tagging] Tagging suggestions for electricity > >> > >> yeah that is what i meant. i think they buy it from the network which > >> serves as a 'middleman' to the generators, because the prices for the > >> same company and tariff vary depending what network you are in over > >> here. so presumably they pick and choose their power sources, and then > >> the network charges them a fee to use them over that network. > >> > >> > >> On 08/31/18 08:57, Warin wrote: > >>> Here there is the company that I buy my electricity from. They buy it > >>> from the distribution network that I am connected to. > >>> So I can have a choice of who I buy from .. but my network does not > >>> change. > >>> I am not certain if these firms buy it directly from the network .. or > >>> some other body that then sees to the network and the power generators > >>> as separate things. > >>> > >>> On 31/08/18 17:43, seirra wrote: > >>>> just something to mention about distribution companies here anyway, > >>>> we have the network, then we have the company? so for example my > >>>> network is UK power network, but my company is utilita? however in > >>>> other areas (still in the uk) they would have a different network > >>>> altogether > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On 08/31/18 05:47, Dolly Andriatsiferana wrote: > >>>>> I think this would be hard to maintain, and highly redundant > >>>>> since voltage won't change for a given city or even country. > >>>>> Think about standards names to fill utilities:electricity. > >>>>> Each standard comes with frequency, voltage, rating... > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Yes, I agree that in most cases voltage doesn't change much for a > >>>>> given city. But something that will change frequently is the source > >>>>> (here in Madagascar mostly from a distribution company, a generator, > >>>>> or individual solar panels). > >>>>> And maybe another good idea is to omit those voltage and possibly > >>>>> redundant details, and put sources directly as values on the main > >>>>> tag (like how most of the few existing electricity=* tags seem to be > >>>>> used). So we would have something like: > >>>>> > >>>>> * utility:electricity=yes - there is electricity feeding the > >>>>> building but the source is not defined > >>>>> * utility:electricity=no - there is no electricity source at all > >>>>> * utility:electricity=generator/company/solar/windmill... - there > >>>>> is electricity and the source is known > >>>>> > >>>>> Thanks. > >>>>> > >>>>> 2018-08-31 1:47 GMT+03:00 Warin <[email protected] > >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>>: > >>>>> > >>>>> On 31/08/18 05:20, François Lacombe wrote: > >>>>>> Le jeu. 30 août 2018 à 19:12, Dolly Andriatsiferana > >>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> a > >>>>>> écrit : > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I like the idea of keeping a namespace gathering utilities > >>>>>> such as electricity, gas, internet or other. But the idea > >>>>>> is also to be able to use a namespace for the utility to > >>>>>> provide more details (source, voltage, fee...) or > >>>>>> conditions (if there's schedule in availability) - and with > >>>>>> *utility:electricity* this would easily generate a complex > >>>>>> tagging of namespace under namespace, unless you say it is > >>>>>> no problem to have *utility:electricity:voltage=** for > >>>>>> example. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I think this would be hard to maintain, and highly redundant > >>>>>> since voltage won't change for a given city or even country. > >>>>> Most hoses in Australia have 240 v single phase supplied to > >>>>> them. Then they have 'standard' (here) GPOs of 10 Amp capacity. > >>>>> Some have one or more higher 15 Amp capacity outlets. > >>>>> And then there are some houses that have 3 phase 415v supplied > >>>>> to them - and they have 'standard' (here) GPOs of 10 Amp > >>>>> capacity, possibly one or more 15 Amp capacity outlets and one > >>>>> or more 3 phase outlets. > >>>>> > >>>>> So here you have in one neighbourhood 3 different instances of > >>>>> electricity presence in houses. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> Agreed with Paul statement about earthing system which is > >>>>>> specific to each building > >>>>> Earthing systems are usually mandated and common to some > >>>>> bureaucratic boundaries. > >>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> Tagging mailing list > >>>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > >>>>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > >>>>> <https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> Tagging mailing list > >>>>> [email protected] > >>>>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Tagging mailing list > >>>> [email protected] > >>>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Tagging mailing list > >>> [email protected] > >>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Tagging mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > Tagging mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > > > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > _______________________________________________ Tagging mailing list [email protected] https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
