yeah that is what i meant. i think they buy it from the network which serves as a 'middleman' to the generators, because the prices for the same company and tariff vary depending what network you are in over here. so presumably they pick and choose their power sources, and then the network charges them a fee to use them over that network.

On 08/31/18 08:57, Warin wrote:
Here there is the company that I buy my electricity from. They buy it from the distribution network that I am connected to. So I can have a choice of who I buy from .. but my network does not change. I am not certain if these firms buy it directly from the network .. or some other body that then sees to the network and the power generators as separate things.

On 31/08/18 17:43, seirra wrote:

just something to mention about distribution companies here anyway, we have the network, then we have the company? so for example my network is UK power network, but my company is utilita? however in other areas (still in the uk) they would have a different network altogether


On 08/31/18 05:47, Dolly Andriatsiferana wrote:

    I think this would be hard to maintain, and highly redundant
    since voltage won't change for a given city or even country.
    Think about standards names to fill utilities:electricity.
    Each standard comes with frequency, voltage, rating...


Yes, I agree that in most cases voltage doesn't change much for a given city. But something that will change frequently is the source (here in Madagascar mostly from a distribution company, a generator, or individual solar panels). And maybe another good idea is to omit those voltage and possibly redundant details, and put sources directly as values on the main tag (like how most of the few existing electricity=* tags seem to be used). So we would have something like:

  * utility:electricity=yes - there is electricity feeding the
    building but the source is not defined
  * utility:electricity=no - there is no electricity source at all
  * utility:electricity=generator/company/solar/windmill... - there
    is electricity and the source is known

Thanks.

2018-08-31 1:47 GMT+03:00 Warin <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>:

    On 31/08/18 05:20, François Lacombe wrote:
    Le jeu. 30 août 2018 à 19:12, Dolly Andriatsiferana
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> a
    écrit :

        I like the idea of keeping a namespace gathering utilities
        such as electricity, gas, internet or other. But the idea
        is also to be able to use a namespace for the utility to
        provide more details (source, voltage, fee...) or
        conditions (if there's schedule in availability) - and with
        *utility:electricity* this would easily generate a complex
        tagging of namespace under namespace, unless you say it is
        no problem to have *utility:electricity:voltage=** for example.


    I think this would be hard to maintain, and highly redundant
    since voltage won't change for a given city or even country.

    Most hoses in Australia have 240 v single phase supplied to
    them. Then they have 'standard' (here) GPOs of 10 Amp capacity.
    Some have one or more higher 15 Amp capacity outlets.
    And then there are some houses that have 3 phase 415v supplied
    to them - and they have 'standard' (here) GPOs of 10 Amp
    capacity, possibly one or more 15 Amp capacity outlets and one
    or more 3 phase outlets.

    So here you have in one neighbourhood 3 different instances of
    electricity presence in houses.



    Agreed with Paul statement about earthing system which is
    specific to each building

    Earthing systems are usually mandated and common to some
    bureaucratic boundaries.

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