I still think that if this feature is there to document the language of the name tag, we should reuse the default_language [1] -- it is already set on more than 200 large regions, covering most of the world. What's the point of duplicating it? If there is a region where name could be in 2 or more languages, we may want to introduce a new tag to specifically address that in those regions only, e.g. multiple_default_languages_of_the_region tag that lists all possible values that the name MAY be in. (the tag name might need some work :)).
That said, I fail to understand how it will help data processing. If a region could be in FR and DE, you still don't know the language of the specific feature's name. How will the proposal help? I might have misread it though. [1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:default_language On Sat, Sep 29, 2018 at 11:48 PM Joseph Eisenberg < [email protected]> wrote: > Any opinions on the order of the tag? > > Just a couple of people have said that default:language would be preferred > to language:default. > > It will take some time to update the proposal page, so I would like a few > more opinions > > Joseph > > On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 10:16 AM Joseph Eisenberg < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Should we change the tag from language:default to default:language? >> >> I've found out that language:* has already been used in the format >> language:de, language:fr, language:en, etc, for the languages taught at a >> school. See >> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dlanguage_school. And >> language=* has been used, though rarely. >> >> There is also a page for default_language, which was made without going >> through the proposal process. And there is a new proposal to specify all >> "defaults" in the fomat default:subkey, though I have also seen this the >> other way around, eg key:default, suggested for maxspeed. >> >> I am not wedded to the current tag "language:default=<code>". Please >> respond here (or on the talk page) if you prefer default:language=<code> or >> default_language=<code>, or if you prefer the current order. >> >> Proposal: >> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Default_Language_Format >> >> Talk page: >> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/Default_Language_Format >> >> Thank you, >> Joseph >> >> On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 9:36 PM Joseph Eisenberg < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Please see the Proposal page for the new tag, >>> "language:default=<language code>" >>> >>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Default_Language_Format >>> >>> Description: >>> "Specify the default language format used for names, and recommend use >>> of language-specific name tags. >>> >>> "By making it easier to use language-specific name:code=* tags to be >>> used instead of the default name=* tag, this proposal will encourage >>> the use of name tags that include the language code for all features. >>> This will improve the quality and utility of the database. It will be >>> possible to display non-Western languages in their correct orientation >>> and script, properly display multilingual names, and to research the >>> most commonly used language formats in a particular area. >>> >>> "The key language:default=* with a 2 or 3 letter ISO language code >>> should be tagged on administrative boundary relations, such as >>> countries, provinces and aboriginal communities. This is the language >>> used for the majority of named features within a particular region, as >>> indicated on public signs and in common use by the local community. If >>> the language can be written in more than one script, a qualifier can >>> be added to specify the script format. More than one language code can >>> be listed, separated with a semicolon, if the local community uses >>> more than one language on signs or by consensus. >>> >>> "The language tag should be applied to the largest boundary relation >>> that accurately represents the language used for default names. When a >>> smaller administrative boundary has a different default language >>> format, this boundary should receive a language tag as well. This >>> would include boundaries of provinces or aboriginal lands where a >>> different language is used. >>> >>> "The language tag may also be applied to individual features when the >>> name is in a different language than the default for the region, or >>> when the feature crosses a border." >>> >>> Please read the whole page, which has quite a number of examples and a >>> detailed rationale for the proposal, then please comment here or on >>> the discussion page: >>> >>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/Default_Language_Format >>> >>> Thank you for all of your comments, criticisms and suggestions >>> -Joseph >>> >> _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >
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