Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 20:42:24 -0500 From: Paul Johnson <ba...@ursamundi.org> To: "Tag discussion, strategy and related tools" <tagging@openstreetmap.org> Subject: Re: [Tagging] Tagging a site with "Luxury Lodges" Message-ID: <CAMPM96rQrP3u=gc-vogglkokb-ckq-jfpzjp_dv-qe_wqbu...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
On Thu, May 23, 2019 at 6:24 PM Joseph Eisenberg <joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com> wrote: >> I personally would not tag a >20 foot wide manufactured home as a static >> caravan Agreed > I'm just amused that staying in a trailer park is considered a high end > tourism/glamping experience in the UK instead of a cheap form of permanent > housing. Granted, my exposure to this phenomenon is limited to this thread > and Damn Dog Games covering Furcation 2018 on YouTube. We have to remember that they were characterised as "Luxury" by the people trying to sell them at £190,000! I was not proposing to tag them with "quality=luxury" Ha Ha! >> I thought that building=static_caravan was meant for (single-wide) >> trailers / “mobile homes” without permanent foundations, since these could >> still be moved without demolishing a foundation or breaking the building >> into pieces. > I would tend to agree. Or like the situation I was in for a few years in > the middle of this decade where it's *literally* a caravan that is > permanently parked. I've not exactly considered them permanent enough to > warrant tagging (even though the specific one I lived in for a few years is > still parked in the exact same spot it was when I lived there, and I > legitimately question whether or not the landing gear is actually capable > of retracting or the brakes releasing if they even wanted to move it at > this point, since I believe it's sat on the same spot all but the first two > years after it was built). I consider "mobile home" and "manufactured > home" to be synonymous. >> If a manufactured home is placed on a permanent foundation, on land that is >> owned rather than rented, then it is just a different way of building a >> house, no? > I would classify a mobile/manufactured home as a permanent building, > whether or not the owner took the wheels off and built a foundation. > Entire multistorey buildings are only slightly less likely to ever move > again than mobile homes, and about as likely to survive transport (based on > Mercy Hospital Joplin being picked up and moved around 3 meters by a > tornado a few years ago, and seeing old mobile homes being moved; in both > cases the only real next stop is a garbage dump). Agreed. >> Similarly, a fancy modern house or apartment building might be built out of >> prefab modules or modified shipping containers. > >> I’d say the defining difference is whether or not there is a permanent >> foundation > I think that's not a bad starting place, though I'd be willing to call any > mobile home not rigged up for immediate tow to be a permanent structure. > See also: Portable classrooms. The leaky, 20 year old one I went to 6th > grade in (along with it's sister unit that was planted immediately > adjacent, scheduled to be removed "any year now" back in the 90s) is now > about 45 years old, basically a black mold lawsuit waiting to happen and > still in daily use back in Portland. I would like to tag them as some form of leisure facility, because they are supposed to be used intermittently for weekends / holidays. However, I also understand the idea of "tag what you see". Out of interest, I looked up the planning permission granted for the site. It is for a number of "caravans", which can only be occupied for 11 months of the year. Originally, this was 8 months, but it was later increased. One "caravan" (for the site manager) can be occupied all year, but the owner is now applying for permission for 9 of them to be occupied all year (with no real justification - IMHO) It seems that the local community do not want a permanent development there, but the owner (selling them at £190,000 per plot, remember) wants to turn them from caravans into permanent bungalows. Anyway, I have now tagged the individual structures as "bungalow"s and the site as "Residential". Thanks to all who have taken the time to contribute and assist. Peter -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/attachments/20190524/59f3ab53/attachment.html>
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