Ferries also seam to be forgotten...
public_transport=platform??? Covers ferry, bus, train, trams ... ??
(One ring to rule them all etc)
With regard to ref. I have bus stops that have 'Stand A' etc near train
stations. these also carry a reference number that is used by the
transport company - they are handy if you knowthem as you can type that
in as your destination or start for there website on finding a trip
scheduled/fee. Discussion on the Australian list resulted in this
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_Tagging_Guidelines#Bus_Stop_names_and_references
On 31/07/19 22:43, Jo wrote:
bus_bay = right | left | both (
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/485293336 )
For me the object that represents the bus stop, is always a simple
node. I don't see a problem for doing that in bus stations as well.
If there are actual platforms, whether in a bus station or somewhere
along a way, it can be tagged:
highway=platform (https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/304753571)
or
or railway=platform (https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/255344359)
for trams.
on a way.
These ways don't get the ref, name, route_ref, zone, local_ref,
operator, network, and so on, those go on the node that represents the
bus stop. Only that node needs to be added to the route relations. It
doesn't get any simpler than that.
Good. I can see no benefit to adding additional information to the
route. Things like shelters, toilets etc all become evident when the map
is viewed. The routeing information does not need it.
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/576656712 (example of a bus stop
served by 3 different operators near Brussels, I only put
public_transport=platform, bus=yes because for a few years that seemed
like the right thing to do. Today I wouldn't mind removing those 2
tags once again.)
Those platform ways could get:
tactile_paving=yes
wheelchair=yes
height=
So there is no real conflict between highway=bus_stop or
railway=tram_stop on a node
and
highway=platform or railway=platform on a way or an area.
Polyglot
On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 2:13 PM Paul Allen <pla16...@gmail.com
<mailto:pla16...@gmail.com>> wrote:
On Wed, 31 Jul 2019 at 12:52, Joseph Eisenberg
<joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com <mailto:joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com>>
wrote:
Agreed, there are enough tags for public transport already. I
don't
think anything new is needed.
There's something I haven't found a way of mapping. That's a bus
stop where there's a bay
inlet into the pavement (aka sidewalk, aka causeway). If it
served a different purpose and
had different road markings, it could be a lay-by (aka rest area)
or a parking bay. But it's a
bus stop where the bus does not obstruct the flow of traffic.
There are four of those in
my town, that I can think of (there may be others I've missed).
Yes, I could use area:highway or add area=yes to a closed way, but
those don't seem to render
on a popular, well-known carto intended for mappers to check their
work for anything but
pedestrian ways.
Is there a way of doing it that I've missed? If not, could we
have one?
Example: https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit#map=20/52.08760/-4.65318
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