On 03/08/19 11:03, Daniel Koć wrote:
W dniu 03.08.2019 o 02:28, Joseph Eisenberg pisze:
Consider also how you would route someone from a amenity=cafe node in
a building to a shop=* area in another building across the city, by
car. You have to jump from the node to the nearest highway, follow the
highways to the other side of the city, and then jump back to the
other node. So any router than can handle automobile directions can
also manage bus stops or tram stops or platforms at the side of the
road, without needing anything other than highway or railway ways and
platform or bus stop nodes.
I guess this is the example where this simple analogy fails:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/334559271
The route for personal journey might be undefined on the ends (drivers
just use their eyes there), public transport routing is more strict.
I wasn't able to understand enough of the link about updating transit
features in Warsaw to see how the stop_position nodes were useful. I
understand that some transit agencies provide data about stop
positions, and that's the original reason that the stop_position nodes
were created. There's no problem with keeping them in your city if you
like them, but probably we shouldn't tell new mappers that they are
needed, for example in developing cities around the world that
currently lack any bus stops.
Sorry for asking, but you probably know this documentation quite good -
do we really tell people that every element of a public transport stop
is needed just because it's documented somewhere?
The complexity of the current system, as described on the main pages
in the wiki, can discourage mapping anything (for example, I've been
discouraged from trying to add any of the minibus routes in my part of
Indonesia, since it seemed so complicated to make so many features and
routes).
So maybe documentation should be just cleaned? And if I understand you
wrong, could you describe what was your problem there?
I would like to know the simplest, easiest and minimalist way of mapping.
I am not dealing with a complex situation, just the simplest possible.
Consider someone who have little to no mapping experience.
Do the main pages help them or confuse them?
-------------------- tl:dr
I think there needs to be a main page that is for beginners.
When they get to something complex they might be able to use the more
complex main pages.
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