seceding from a country.
I don't follow this reasoning since some people will always leave their country behind and begin a new life somewhere else. That was just how the US was founded, founded by ones from Europe mostly who broke up with their formally country in the hope of a better life.
And quitting the EU is not easy because in a democracy it is not easy to gain the single vote of a majority e.g. to leave the EU. And also the complexity of the contracts with the EU don't make this easy. See United Kingdom and they don't have the problem of having to switch currency since they use their own one already.
I would rather say that the EU is a suber administrative boundary which belongs to OSM as a relation with admin_level=1 with all the EU countries as its members.
~ Sören Reinecke alias Valor Naram
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Subject: Re: [Tagging] Should admin_level=1 tag be applied to EU?
From: Frederik Ramm
To: tagging@openstreetmap.org
CC:
Hi,
On 30.07.20 13:32, Colin Smale wrote:
> The EU is «composed-of» whole member states. It has all the attributes
> of a governmental administrative body - with the executive, parliament
> and justicial branches impacting citizens directly.
To me as a citizen of a EU country it does not feel like the EU is a
higher-level administrative body than the country. Yes, countries have
decided to contractually transfer some rights and responsibilities to
the EU but that doesn't (in my mind) mean the EU is some form of
super-state. Quitting the EU if you don't like it is much easier than
seceding from a country.
I would prefer to map the EU as a contract than as an administrative
boundary. There are many such contracts around the world, where smaller
countries pool their defense or other typically national capabilities,
and I would not be surprised if there were situations where countries
pool their defense with one group, and their currency with another.
Mapping these things as "areas on the map" is old-style cartographic
thinking. We can do better than that.
Even *if* a boundary was mapped, it would probably more pragmatic to map
the outer boundary of the Schengen region than the outer boundary of the
EU states.
Bye
Frederik
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