Aug 18, 2020, 07:09 by andrew.harv...@gmail.com: > > Data consumers see these hyphenated house numbers as one address, as well. > > Is that a problem? An address range can be considered a single address. > > > Create an address node for each housenumber and place each node somewhere > > on the building outline (or inside the building) > > I don't think that's a good idea, we should try to accurately map what's on > the ground, when the street address is signposted as a range like "1-3" we > should capture that as a single address "1-3" and not multiple addresses > unless it's signed that way on the ground. > It depends on what is actually on the ground, we are mapping addresses with addr:housenumber. Single object using 1-3 range? OK, 1-3 is correct and other versions would be incorrect. Single 1-3 signpost with three entrances? Then mapping each as a separate node with addr:housenumber=1, addr:housenumber=2, addr:housenumber=3 is preferable. Single entrance? Depends on a case, if there is later a clear split then three nodes are better than one range. Signposts are not sole address source, asking people - especially people living there - is also perfectly acceptable on the ground survey method. > > > If house numbers are associated with individual entrances, tag those > > numbers to entrance=* nodes. > > Doesn't work when the whole site and single main entrance have the address > range. > And in such case range may be OK or even preferable. > > Separate the numbers by commas (e.g., 11,13,15) or semicolon (e.g., > > 11;13;15). > why commas? > Again I feel that's skewing what's actually represented on the ground, which > is a single address which is a range and not multiple addresses. > We are using addr:* to map addresses, not signposts. And in this specific case you are anyway unable to specify range. > > Specify the range (e.g. 10-95). Note that there is a risk of ambiguity > > between two meanings: > > When such a range is officially used for the entire house, this is the > > preferred method. In this case 10-95 is simply a label like any other. In > > this and other cases, house numbers officially contain a dash and are not > > meant to be treated as special. > > When such a range is meant to be interpreted as a list of addresses, use > > addr:interpolation=* (described below) to emphasise this. Some mappers will > > add a short "virtual" way which allows them to put addresses 10 and 95 on > > separate nodes as normal. Some mappers will specify the range 10-95 on a > > single object, where the addition of the addr:interpolation=* tag > > disambiguates it from the "simply a label" meaning, specifying that it is > > indeed to be treated as a range. Both approaches are used in practice and > > there is little consensus. > > Note that in some cases building or building complex has single address > > such as 3-5 that only looks like a housenumber range. As usual, do not > > convert such data blindly, without a verification. > I think this is the best option, since it depends exactly what's happening on > the ground. > > I think the only reasonable alternative is to have something like > addr:housenumber:start=1 + addr:housenumber:end=3. Which is clearer that this > is a range and allows data consumers to understand it better. > > On Tue, 18 Aug 2020 at 13:34, Paul White <> pjwhite1...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> I wanted to raise a concern about tagging house numbers on a building using >> a hyphen to denote the address range (e.g 33-55 Main Street). This is a bad >> idea because some areas in the United States and possibly elsewhere use >> hyphenated street numbers for individual dwellings.[1] Data consumers see >> these hyphenated house numbers as one address, as well. Other methods >> documented >> here >> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Addresses#Buildings_with_multiple_house_numbers>>> >> work better, in my opinion. >> >> I hope to get some input on this issue and the best path forward. >> >> Best, Paul >> >> [1] >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queens#Streets >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_Lawn%2C_New_Jersey#Grid-based_address_system >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Address#United_States >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Tagging mailing list >> >> Tagging@openstreetmap.org >> >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >>
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