Irrelevant of any implied meaning, 'man_made' always appeared to be a
clunky, catch-all tag. OSM was being a bit lazy.
I mean, *everything* is either man made or natural. We really should
come up with more specific, accurate key tags.
DaveF
On 19/10/2020 12:45, Jo wrote:
It would be best to first consider the consequences of such a change.
Weigh the benefits against what we lose in time (humanhours?) and
resources/energy. And then there is still the point that many objects
will get new timestamps for a change that's not really a change.
Anyway, artificial sounds like made up to me. artificial=dyke, not
really a dyke, but it looks like it.
man_made has the advantage of being succinct. Most people will
immediately understand what is meant by it. Almost nobody will think
women were not involved in the creation of the feature.
Polyglot
On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 12:42 PM Robert Delmenico <rob...@rtbk.com.au
<mailto:rob...@rtbk.com.au>> wrote:
Nice investigating Nathan,
I would be open to using artificial instead of human_made.
Would it be best to change the proposal or start a second proposal?
Change man_made= to artificial=
Rob
On Mon, 19 Oct 2020 at 21:14, nathan case <nathanc...@outlook.com
<mailto:nathanc...@outlook.com>> wrote:
Pros and cons aside, “human-made” is not a term that is in
current widespread usage. As a native English GB speaker, I
find it clunky and somewhat distracting.
A better gender neutral term might be “artificial”, which is
already a synonym for “man-made” and is already widely used.
Indeed, the Handbook of Nonsexist Writing suggests:
"artificial, handmade, hand-built, synthetic, manufactured,
fabricated, machine-made, and constructed" as options instead
of man-made. Presumably the majority (if not all) of OSM
"man-made" tags relate to objects which are not naturally
occurring. Therefore "artificial" seems to hold.
Other sources:
https://writingcenter.unc.edu/tips-and-tools/gender-inclusive-language/
https://www.chicagomanualofstyle.org/qanda/data/faq/topics/Usage/faq0053.html
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/man-made
An issue may arise if artificial is already being used as a
tag however.
Best,
Nathan
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