Thanks Steve, good to know about the wiki, I had a hunch that was how
it's meant but wasn't really sure. Certainly descriptive for this tag. I
guess I could "take over" the fell tag but starting massively use it for
bare mountain landcover, but I shall look more closely into
alternatives.
Just starting using Overpass Turbo, seems like a really cool and useful
tool, and impressively fast for the amount of data there is. With a bit
of learning curve as you say though :-D.
I think I've read about heath+alpine=yes somewhere, I'll see if I can
make an OT search for it :-).
/Anders
On 2020-12-21 19:11, stevea wrote:
Nice, Anders. You can use taginfo to get "the raw numbers" (quantity)
of a particular kind of tagging. What might work specifically for you
in this case is to use some well-crafted Overpass Turbo queries (over
a specific area at first, you can use the "bbox" method of "what you
see on-screen" or you can use the "geocodeArea" directive to restrict
the query to a named place). OT querying takes some practice to
become skilled in its vast power to query OSM data, but it is worth
investing in the learning curve to do this, as it is likely (imo) the
most powerful tool we have to ask our data "what about this, like
this?"
Usually, our wiki describe "tagging as is," what is known as
"descriptive." On occasion, some wiki will be "prescriptive," meaning
"here is how one SHOULD tag, though I make a point to say that any
wiki which does that should say so explicitly.
Good luck in your endeavors!
SteveA
On Dec 21, 2020, at 9:56 AM, Anders Torger <and...@torger.se> wrote:
I just discovered a strange(?) thing with the "natural=fell" tag which
I missed at first: on the wiki page there's two purposes defined of
this single tag, the first is landcover of bare mountain as discussed,
and the other purpose is, quote from the wiki:
"In the north of England, and probably in other areas of Norse
influence such as Iceland, Norway and Sweden, there is a practice of
naming the sides of hills, fells, rather than peaks. A single hill can
have different names on different sides. This tag can be used to
record such names."
It's true that we do have such a practice although more so at lower
altitudes. I recently added such a name on an alpine mountain as a
fell cutout with a fixme tag (there is no other tag for slopes I
think, didn't realize that "fell" is it). However as said we have
"fell" in that sense in forested areas as well, even more common
there.
I guess if "fell without name tag" is defined as landcover, and "fell
with name tag" is defined as fuzzy area naming a side of a hill it
could work, but it's the first time I see this type of dual
definition. Is it normal, or is the wiki page just documenting how
this tag have ended up being used?
/Anders
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