intrigeri:
I have also dubts about esiliati.org, I'm not sure that is more than a
person, I used some of their tools, but I used safely only the stateless
service.

They have not explicit policy, not founding plan, not decision making,
not comunication channel with the users. for what I know... maybe
someone can say that I'm wrong... please.

On the one hand, you know that project better than I do, so I'm
inclined to trust your judgment (although I have difficulties
balancing it with boyska's, so perhaps you 2 can sort it out? :)

well, I can't say that any of this is far from true. But is there any requirement we have that esiliati.org is missing?

1) https://www.systemli.org/en/service/xmpp/   -
https://jabber.systemli.org/
(https://compliance.conversations.im/server/jabber.systemli.org/)

It was indeed the other candidate. Quoting details from the blueprint:

- happy to host us
- XMPP server will run another 2+ years but not forever.
- They host a (beta as of today) Matrix server.
- They can help us transition to Matrix when their XMPP server goes away.

I think what made the difference was commitment. Although no realistic project is going to ever promise that any service will last _forever_, esiliati.org gave us a commitment of working to keep it functional to our needs as they care about XMPP a lot, and that XMPP is not easily going away.

Personally, I'm OK with migrating these 2 chat rooms to systemli.org.

I have no strong objections, too.

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boyska
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