On Fri, 12 Dec 2008, Darrin Smith wrote: > You are still equating mini_roundabouts and roundabouts as exactly the > same thing. Minis were defined as a very specific subset of roundabout > which all the pages YOU provided say are small roundabouts that can be > completely driven over. I notice you have failed to address this very > specific argument completely.
I'm obviously not reading the same as you http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roundabout#Mini_roundabouts "Mini-roundabouts can be a painted circle, a low dome, or often are small garden beds. Painted roundabouts and low domes can easily be driven over by most vehicles, which many motorists will do when there is no other traffic, but the practice is dangerous if other cars are present." "Whilst it may be physically possible, it is illegal for vehicles like cars, which can turn around the mini-roundabout, to go over the painted island, or around the wrong way- vehicles should treat it like a solid island and proceed around it. (In practice, few motorists obey these rules). " When I read this I see that motorists may be found driving over these things, but it's illegal; it's dangerous and it's not a *core* descriptor - it is a result of the design parameter of low height coupled with motorist expediency please note that the text does not suggest that motorists are in the habit of driving over the garden bed variety of min_roundabout further on there are examples of other mini_roundabouts which merge with the small_roundabout "A slightly larger version of a mini-roundabout, sometimes called a "small roundabout", is designed with a raised centre surrounded by a sloped "overrun area" of a different colour from the roadway and up to a meter in thickness called a "truck apron" or a "mountable apron"." _______________________________________________ Talk-au mailing list [email protected] http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
