On Mon, 2010-11-22 at 17:29 +1100, Steve Bennett wrote:

> But maybe I misunderstood the target of the email. I guess there are
> three possible outcomes of the licence debate:
> 1) The CTs get sorted out so that NearMap etc are happy with them, and
> OSM switches to ODbL. However, some people refuse to accept the CTs
> anyway.

Thats fine for data that is sourced from NearMap.  What about other data
sources, such as imports and the like?  Having said that, if the CTs are
accepted by one group, Im sure theyll be accepted by most, as it seems
that everyone has the same problems with it.

> I had thought Nick's post was talking about scenario 2, and the work
> that would be lost. But judging from other people's comments, it looks
> like it was aimed at 1, and particularly people who decide not to
> relicence their own work as ODbL. I confess to not having a lot of
> sympathy for the latter.

This is fine for your own individual GPS traces and your own work, but
what about derived work?  Should everyone elses data be relicenced to
ODbL?  What about if another project decided to use work youd done, and
then relicenced it under their own licence?  Should they have no
sympathy for the work you did and respect your rights?  Why are data
sources not entitled to be treated the way youd like yours to be
treated?  Why should someone spend resources to collect data, then
release it freely, only to have it relicenced under terms they may not
even know about, letalone agree with?

> The proposed CTs are simply broken. But presumably people like Stephen
> Hope and me will sign up as soon as that incompatibility is resolved -
> it's not a philosophical objection, which people like Liz Dodd seem to
> have.

Would you write OSM a contract, have it signed and witnessed, but
leaving a big blank spot for OSM to fill in with whatever they may see
fit to put there in the future (but dont worry, they wont change the
contract to their favour against yours, because theyre an 'open' group..
now part owned by a private business).. THAT is the 'philosophical
problem' I think Liz and a lot of us others have with the current
proposal.  Although Im happy to be corrected by Liz if this isnt the
case.

David


_______________________________________________
Talk-au mailing list
[email protected]
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Reply via email to