On Mon, 2010-11-22 at 17:29 +1100, Steve Bennett wrote: > But maybe I misunderstood the target of the email. I guess there are > three possible outcomes of the licence debate: > 1) The CTs get sorted out so that NearMap etc are happy with them, and > OSM switches to ODbL. However, some people refuse to accept the CTs > anyway.
Thats fine for data that is sourced from NearMap. What about other data sources, such as imports and the like? Having said that, if the CTs are accepted by one group, Im sure theyll be accepted by most, as it seems that everyone has the same problems with it. > I had thought Nick's post was talking about scenario 2, and the work > that would be lost. But judging from other people's comments, it looks > like it was aimed at 1, and particularly people who decide not to > relicence their own work as ODbL. I confess to not having a lot of > sympathy for the latter. This is fine for your own individual GPS traces and your own work, but what about derived work? Should everyone elses data be relicenced to ODbL? What about if another project decided to use work youd done, and then relicenced it under their own licence? Should they have no sympathy for the work you did and respect your rights? Why are data sources not entitled to be treated the way youd like yours to be treated? Why should someone spend resources to collect data, then release it freely, only to have it relicenced under terms they may not even know about, letalone agree with? > The proposed CTs are simply broken. But presumably people like Stephen > Hope and me will sign up as soon as that incompatibility is resolved - > it's not a philosophical objection, which people like Liz Dodd seem to > have. Would you write OSM a contract, have it signed and witnessed, but leaving a big blank spot for OSM to fill in with whatever they may see fit to put there in the future (but dont worry, they wont change the contract to their favour against yours, because theyre an 'open' group.. now part owned by a private business).. THAT is the 'philosophical problem' I think Liz and a lot of us others have with the current proposal. Although Im happy to be corrected by Liz if this isnt the case. David _______________________________________________ Talk-au mailing list [email protected] http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

