On 19/05/2014 11:42 PM, Steve Bennett wrote:
On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 7:55 PM, Warin <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Humm .. there are places I've been before GPS... One example:

    I know the road is there as I've been on it. However it is now
closed for vehicles - inside a National Park. I've mapped bits of it into OSM as it may be of use to walkers. The bit I cannot 'see'
    with imagery I've connected with very apparent straight lines. I
    do have copyright maps of the area but I'm not looking at those
    now (they were current when I was there ... many years ago!). I'm
    not going back there, I've many other (new to me) places to go.
    Nor would I request someone to go there. Someone probably will go
    there .. but I'll leave their interest and trip up to them. So I'm
    adding stuff that I think is of use, an indication rather than
    accurate in some places .. but those bits are straight lines and
    anyone who knows the area will know that those are not 'truth'.


Yeah, someone (you?) added lots of tracks through the Victorian Alps in very low detail. It was actually incredibly helpful, and really motivated me to go through and improve them all - rather than starting from a blank slate. And in certain areas, I get a real kick out of doing very high quality aerial mapping like this: http://bit.ly/1hXv9KZ

Glad it helps, and should have made a good trip. And ... no I don't think that was me ... NSW, Tas, some bits along the Nullabor IIRC.

    I've been deleting the tag "name={Unnamed]" and adding the tag
    "unsigned=yes", in one case I 'know' the roads name .. but my
    source I remember as a street directory . So I cannot use it
    untill the memory fades a bit more. In most cases I've been past
    some of the roads .. and there is no street sign (indeed most have
    no power poles nor street lighting). In this case I think it can
    be changed without 'knowing' as the intent is clear - there is no
    local sign to get a name from .. at least not when the tag was added.

Sounds sensible.

What about this confusing one: http://bit.ly/1hXvwVK

The picnic ground/campsite is literally signed "No Name", and that's how everyone refers to it. I have no idea what the history is. (And there's a corner on the way up Mount Buller called 'Unnamed corner').

Well if you add the tag source:name then it should be clear that it is a real name? Rather than a description .. like "Service Road", "No Public Access" ... in some ways I don't mind that in the name tag as it does convey information that may not be avaliable otherwise.

The tag unsigned come from the wiki
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Noname
I don't like the finality of the tag noname as that implys there is no name at all... the sign may be missing .. but it may still have a name. Even just a local name that the locals use to idntify it.

I tend to map stuff that is there .. as even if you cannot use it for access (closed for whatever reason) you can use it for navigation .. but there are other views.
https://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/6728/tagging-historicunsignedunmaintained-trails



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