On 20/04/17 19:50, Warin wrote:

Thanks. Sometimes my 'plain English' understanding gets the better of the 'OSM meanings'!
Hmm, I think people in caravans do think they are camping. If there is a sign, "no camping" we assume it means no caravans too.

a) I do think that 'rest areas' should be tagged using the rest area tag.
Honestly, I have never tagged a rest area. I go straight to thinking of it as a potential camp site, if not, I don't bother. Sorry.... So I just read the rest_area key and I must say, its not really very useful IMHO. As its a key to highway= it needs to be applied to a way and not the surrounding area perhaps ? Generally people don't camp on the drive through part but off the side. Mind you, have see a few people who have just stopped, closed the curtains and nod off !

b) Using the tag 'tourism=camp_site' to me implies that I should be able to set up a tent there.
Thats because you think "camp" means tent only. We've established that people camp using all sorts of infrastructure. Even truckies talk about 'camping' at some place or another.

c) If they are appropriate for caravans/camper vans then there is the caravan_site or caravan=yes tag that would better represent the features facility?
I don't use tourism=caravan_site because I consider =camp_site more appropriate there being so many similarities and little point in distinguishing. But I do use caravan=yes/no as a key to tourism=camp_site. In deference to your good self, I might use tent=yes/no a bit more often now :-)

I really think the camp_site part needs to be tagged because it allows a large range of informative tags to be added. Toilets, water, rubbish disposal, web_site and so on. So, would it work to tag the road part highway=rest_area and surrounding area tourism=camp_site ? Be OK for big ones like archers-creek-rest-area but smaller ones ?

I guess my point here is a rest_area is a camp site and visa versa. Some allow you to camp overnight, some don't. Some might allow it but would be horrible. Just what information are we trying to impart ?

David



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